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  1. 2 minutes ago, janetjanet998 said:

    no there was only an advisory ....

    usually there is a flood warning issued ...then when things get extreme a "Flash flood emergency"

    Not correct.  Maybe you should stick to your area.  Things are 'extreme' by the way.

    Flood Warning
    National Weather Service Morristown TN
    718 AM EST SAT FEB 23 2019
    
    TNC001-009-057-089-093-105-129-145-155-231815-
    /O.NEW.KMRX.FA.W.0014.190223T1218Z-190223T1815Z/
    /00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
    Morgan TN-Loudon TN-Knox TN-Anderson TN-Blount TN-Jefferson TN-
    Grainger TN-Sevier TN-Roane TN-
    718 AM EST SAT FEB 23 2019
    
    The National Weather Service in Morristown has issued a
    
    * Flood Warning for...
      Southeastern Morgan County in east Tennessee...
      Loudon County in east Tennessee...
      Knox County in east Tennessee...
      Southern Anderson County in east Tennessee...
      Northern Blount County in east Tennessee...
      Jefferson County in east Tennessee...
      Southwestern Grainger County in east Tennessee...
      Northwestern Sevier County in east Tennessee...
      Roane County in east Tennessee...
    
    * Until 115 PM EST.
    
    * At 717 AM EST, Doppler radar indicated heavy rain that will cause
      flooding. Up to three inches of rain has already fallen.
    
    * Some locations that will experience flooding include...
      Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Maryville, Sevierville, Clinton, Lenoir City,
      Alcoa, Jefferson City, Kingston, Rockwood, Loudon, Dandridge,
      Rutledge, Farragut, Fairview, Oliver Springs, Louisville, White
      Pine, Plainview and New Market.
  2. 18 minutes ago, janetjanet998 said:

    a flash flood warning should have been issued long ago

    FFW and Emergency are different things.  The warning has been in place officially since 7:16 this morning.

    I have some videos, will post later when they've downloaded.  It's getting worse so these may be tame by the time they upload.  Turkey Creek has breached the bridge at Kingston Pike.  The road is impassable as it is a river

  3. 44 minutes ago, janetjanet998 said:

    Heavy steady (not not excessive rates  yet) rains the past 6 hours.   2.17 inc

    time and per hr rainfall
    23    07:53       0.42        
    23    06:53       0.38       
    23    05:53       0.40        
    23    04:53       0.27        
    23    03:53       0.33            
    23    02:53       0.26          
    23    01:53       0.11    

     

     

    The airport has been just east of the heaviest axis of precipitation, though it's catching up now.  In west Knox I've past 4 inches in the rain gauge this morning alone.  It's excessive.  For locals:

    The entrance and exit to I-40/75 @ Campbell Station rd is underwater and impassible.  Lovell Road is still passable.

    I-40/75 itself has standing water on the left lane, there are many emergency vehicles out

    Turkey Creek has flooded its banks along Campbell Station rd, the bridge at Turkey Creek rd is almost breached as well as the bridge at Kingston Pike.

     

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  4. 7 hours ago, bluewave said:

    A solar minimum is no match for the CO2 forcing. There was a good paper out on this several years ago. As for the AMO, the sea ice was in decline during the last cold phase during the 80's into the mid-90's. Natural oscillations like the PDO and AMO can impact shorter term  rates of decline.  But the long term decline is a result of rising global and Arctic temperatures.

    https://www.pik-potsdam.de/members/feulner/research/how-would-a-new-grand-minimum-of-solar-activity-affect-the-future-climate

    The sun has far more power on our planet than CO2, it borders on ridiculous to suggest otherwise.  That study is not powered well, and I'm pretty sure that institution has been known to push agendas for funding purposes in the past.  The only thing that has a remotely higher impact on us than the sun are things like drastic changes in oceanic composition and planetary events like super volcanoes and meteors.  I don't mean to come across too critical, you just seem too set in your ways.

  5. 3 hours ago, WidreMann said:

    So I guess we're in agreement that climate change is happening and that the sea ice is reflecting a period of ever increasing warming. Right?

    If that's what you got from the comment then you have more pressing concerns than climate change.  But to bring it down to  level, yes the climate is always changing.  And yes, the earth has been generally warming for 10-12,000 years so one would expect ice core samples to reflect that trend.  Per the other guy's point, the sea ice is not currently adequately reflecting a period of warming and thus (per the other other guy's point) there is more to the process than what our current understanding is.  A lot of what has been posted recently here in the form of articles is mainly an example of politicking and hubris.  

  6. 10 hours ago, WidreMann said:

    But what would a similar weather pattern have produced 20 years ago? That's the question you have to ask yourself whenever there's a cold anomaly of some sort. Extent probably would have been a good bit higher, but now we have warmer SSTs and temps, so while its pace is great, it's still way behind the historical norms.

    This is true.  That said, it's important to keep what 'historical norms' are in perspective as well.  The time frame we are speaking of is smaller than a blip on the radar in terms of global climate.  I'm not saying that we haven't played a role in warming things a bit (of course we have), but the big picture impact is likely overstated, and it might not even be a bad thing really anyway.  We have no idea what the climate is going to be like in 2040, '50, whenever.  Let's just say that we go through a stretch in a couple years where things freeze up nicely, 'like they used to'.  This is entirely possible based on some projections that are about as meaningful as those saying we'll be ice free.  Come the new decade, the new 30 year averages will be from 1991-2020.  This will include the biggest years of the brief warm up.  The next thing you know the observed trends will be a mirror opposite of what we were seeing earlier this decade, and it will look like an impending relative ice age.  This is what happens when humans over emphasize their lifetime on a global scale.  

    Awareness is key of course.  I'm not saying that you are being this way but some here are beating drums so loudly that they are unknowingly contributing to complacency.  

  7. I wish we could keep the discussions of human induced climate change and human induced mass extinction separate.  I am a huge believer in trying to address the latter, while I think the former is mainly political.  Combining them will alienate those that don't like BS, there are a lot of them out there, and we need all the help we can get to slow the extinction event.  

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