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They don’t know what they’re rooting for. We’re seeing what sticks. One has it north and strong. one has it east and weak. But both those equal the same thing snow then rain. one because it’s not strong enough to pull cold air in and one because it’s too far north, and brings us warm air. The rest are somewhere in between. Long story short if you live near 287 you’re gonna have a good day. If you live in Long Beach, you’re gonna have a bad day. If you live in city youre gonna have a miss near enough to stay tuned

you guys are throwing in the towel on snow in the city a little too quickly.

Not too far in though

Very common on clear winter mornings. Get used to it. SE inland radiates very well! Much better than NYC metro

Playing Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer in the background. What a blast from past. Thanks for sharing!

Look at the huge change in just 20 years! How fucking scary!

Ill take it. So will most at this point

I like that there’s a storm that we are tracking with this. Makes it all seem possible at least briefly

if you live in the suburbs, you’ll be below freezing on the first. But I get your point.

never really works out like that though for them. If they get snow and we don’t, it’s because the storm went out to sea below us. It is very rare where they are getting snow, and we are getting rain simply because they are so much warmer than us. It almost discounts the fact that they are a bit west, and inland.

they will be less affected by AGW than us in terms of cold lows. They don’t have an urban heat island, and they are inland. What is missing in this discussion is that the days that go below freezing have the potential to be much lower up here than they do down there. what is alarming is how few days New York City is now going below freezing. 8% of days. really on the cusp of saying this is no longer a winter city if this continues unabated Looking into 2024, I dont see many night below freezing for CPK thru mid month

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Moving more into a Seattle/London type winter climate with the pac. Interesting turn of events to say the least. I wish the summers would cool down a bit. That would actually make me really happy.

except we’re tracking a storm, right? Too many guys that don’t know what they’re talking about speaking in absolutes on here. and for what it’s worth I agree with you. I think it is toast, but it’s January and we’re not out of it yet.

It just doesnt look that cold through 10th though. Need perfect setups

…and the weeks are ticking by quickly

Actually removing a Dam just north of this photo

Many people dont realize that the Saw Mill Pkwy is actually the Saw Mill River Pkwy. next to it is the Saw Mill River, which at most, is a glorified Brook. It now looks like this once a week. Very sad what’s happening here and very alarming. Anybody that thinks this is in the realm of normal is delusional

this is their 2015. wow this wasn’t the worst December around, the end of it and the transition to January thus far is horrendous.

well, if you look at a place like Belleayre, they have really invested over the last several summers in new piping and pumping capabilities because they know when it is cold they have to be able to blow huge amounts of snow in very short periods of time. I would argue that the larger ski areas up north are really going to be affected once the snow and cold temperatures go away. It is easy to blanket a smaller resort like Hunter with man-made snow not so easy for a whiteface or Gore or Killington. For the first 20 years of my life, we went up to Lake Placid every December to ski at Whiteface. Cold and snow and a frozen lake were a lock. I can’t even remember the last time Lake Placid had a good Christmas week. If you want to see something scary, go onto whitefacemoutain.com/webcams. it left an impression on me. It looks like a dystopian future hanging on to shreds of a ski resort.

Sun angle…

I mean, looks bad to start January. We have 10 weeks from January 1 to have a winter. If what Im looking at today is correct (always a big if) we are down to 8.5 weeks to have a winter. Just a game of attrition. On a more global scale, NYC has a 15 week snowfall season. Last week of November thru second week of March. By Jan 7, we are 6 weeks in. It’s like a baseball game the Mets are playing, the Jets in December, or the Knicks with Dolan as owner. Could work, but if you have been around a while, you can start calling these things before half time or the 7th inning stretch I personally would feel better if December produced anything. Better historical data to cling to

Right. But then the question becomes how many, how much and for how long. Snowless Ninos dont usually become prolonged winters

The Winter is already a punt. Cruising towards AN temps and BN snow. Questions are: do we get a few snow events or one snow event? Are any of those a blockbuster like 2016? January opens at a solid +5 for those celebrating the pattern change

Forget snow. When is next day CPK goes below freezing?