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Reminds me of my mom. As soon as November arrives, time for the Christmas music. Too early imo.

Number of deaths reported in Indiana on the last 6 Sundays (typically a lower reporting day as everyone should know by now) 9/27: 3 10/4: 5 10/11: 7 10/18: 19 10/25: 12 11/1: 32

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Which is why Thanksgiving is setting up to be a problem.

Some people probably wouldn't be upset about not seeing certain family members.

I just wanted to get my covid to weather post ratio down. It is like 20:1.

Not sure what we are going to do in this country if we are at/near the brink on a widespread level as we approach Thanksgiving. There were the initial stay at home orders back in spring. There were also limits on group sizes, but the limits have been relaxed or even ended depending on where you are. The reality is that it's a numbers game and while any particular individual gathering that is "small" is not likely be attended by somebody carrying the virus, it happens. Considering there are a gazillion gatherings for Thanksgiving, it is a recipe for spread. You can do it more safely outdoors of course but even that is not completely safe and it's not really an option in a large part of the country. And then we go through it all over again in December.

Take it up with the FDA I guess.

^only a partial shutdown in the UK though

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced a second national lockdown for England to prevent a "medical and moral disaster" for the NHS. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54763956

I half expect to come in here one day and see a post about gold falling out of the sky in the magical land of South Carolina.

~7900 new cases in Illinois today, which broke the previous daily record and it's a Saturday.

As has been posted, places in Illinois are defying the orders anyway. The defiance doesn't seem to be isolated either. Illinois has a list of outbreaks that has been kept secret up until now. They traced a lot of cases back to gatherings at people's houses and what not. Not good when you consider what is coming up on the calendar. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/illinois-covid-19-outbreak-list-is-so-secret-even-local-officials-arent-told-of-cases/2361878/?amp

This would be cool. I'd like it farther west though.

7900 new cases in Illinois.

Europe did something right in the summer. Look at what their case rates were compared to ours back then. No doubt they are seeing explosive growth now though, perhaps because they got complacent.

Set a new daily case record in my county with 379. Continue to have similar case numbers to Indianapolis/Marion county despite having half the population.

Speaking of Regeneron, they are not enrolling very sick people Regeneron to stop enrolling very sick COVID-19 patients in antibody trial By Ankur Banerjee (Reuters) - Regeneron Pharmaceuticals said on Friday it would stop enrolling patients receiving advanced COVID-19 care in a trial testing its experimental antibody treatment in hospitalized patients, based on the recommendation of an independent safety board. The recommendation was based on a potential safety signal and an unfavorable risk-benefit profile at this time, the company said. Rival Eli Lilly & Co stopped enrolling such patients based on a similar suggestion earlier this week. "It appears a trend is emerging in the class, and it may be that neutralizing antibodies simply do not work and/or are not safe in this (hospitalized) population," JP Morgan analyst Cory Kasimov said in a note. Both treatments belong to a class of drugs known as monoclonal antibodies. Regeneron's drug, which was administered to U.S. President Donald Trump before he was hospitalized, was credited by him for his recovery from COVID-19. Regeneron continues to enroll other types of patients for trials and its enrollment in non-hospitalized patients as well as hospitalized patients requiring either no or a low level of oxygen has been backed by the independent data monitoring committee. https://news.yahoo.com/regeneron-stop-enrolling-very-sick-151542504.html

The growth we are on isn't sustainable. Something's gotta give at some point, whether it's from the governor or local/county officials. Doesn't mean a large scale shutdown but at least some tinkering.

The Europe rise has been insane. They had more of a break in summer than the US though.

What makes you say that? Gotta remember we haven't been putting up the really big (say 75,000+) case numbers for that long. If we are still getting 800-1000 deaths/day a couple weeks from now then yeah that will be pretty suspicious.

My cousin has a high up position at one of the hospitals here in northwest IN and I am hearing some concerning stuff. It's manageable for now but they are having to make some adjustments in resources and the real problem is if it keeps growing quickly.

97k cases on Covid Tracking. Worldometers tends to run a bit higher and probably will eclipse 100k on there. Where will we be a month from now on the higher reporting days ? 125k cases? 150k?

Per Covid Tracking, there are over 9000 people in the ICU (out of about 47,000 covid hospitalizations) and almost 2500 currently on a ventilator. Knowledge/treatments are better now than in spring, but the numbers are growing at a rate that won't prevent deaths from rising. Daily deaths are in fact already rising.