CapturedNature

9 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

Well the same shit is thrown back at us. We’re just trying to give our best call.

lol...It's not an us vs them scenario.

7 here this morning.

20 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Up to 6.8/-7

I've been out all day taking the day by the horns. Pulled the gym equipment out onto the ice laden driveway and did some benching and squats. Then I sparked up the fire pit and grilled some steaks and burgers on it paleolithic style. Then we played some ultimate frisbee in the 7" pack. It stings at first barefoot, but eventually you become numb to it. Great morning and I feel alive.

There you go!  No need to hide behind a glass window and look out.  Just be glad you're alive!

1 hour ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Just what exactly is there to enjoy?

Whatever outdoor activities folks have or what they would normally do.

2 hours ago, dendrite said:

It’s fricken cold. I want last weekend back. 6° and roaring.

Regression to the mean can be a bitch.  Get out and enjoy it!

32 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

I'm pretty skeptical of warning snows anywhere that is widespread enough for WSW but who knows. I suppose 6" might be common enough if this thump ticks up a little bit. 

Yeah I don't think 6" will be widespread.  It is a watch and at this lead time isn't a bad decision I think.  They can always switch that to an advisory tomorrow.

58 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

read the AFD

Yeah, I think their reasoning in the discussion makes sense.  The BOX forecast for me in northern Tolland County is 1-3" tomorrow afternoon and 3-5" tomorrow evening.  That's 4-8".  There's just as likely a chance for 4" as 8" and I think that's a reasonable call at this time considering there may be places over 6".

1 hour ago, Typhoon Tip said:

That one I provided came via NWS', one of their NP offices and going to their "Observations" link ... I've noticed these sites ( must be ) allowed to create their own interfacing for obs, under a standardized page formatting - comes off that way... Anyway, I put in the "=bos" in the URL bar and it seemed to default the orbital view over the west coast, which is then easy to drift the image over any region of the country and then use track-ball action ( or whatever tech) to then hone in, when/where it automagically fills in with a denser number of sites but very quickly. And that's good. 

Try this link:

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/map/?&zoom=8&scroll_zoom=true&center=42.08599350447723,-72.08129882812499&basemap=OpenStreetMap&boundaries=true,false,false&obs=true&obs_type=weather&elements=temp,wind,gust&obs_popup=false&obs_density=1

It's centered over SNE but you can create links for any place based on the latitude/longitude and how far you want it zoomed.

25 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I don't know if y'all know this exists but I like this NWS product:   https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/map/?obs=true&wfo=bos

It's got a reasonably decent density when scrolling in, and it's NWS sites which - in theory - we can eliminate the uncertainty of the "back-yard phenomenon" of Wonder ground/ general public.  

I can't wait to see a tuck cold punch on this product... Maybe we can do that this weekend when the GGEM verifies -heh... right. 

That's my go-to product for temperature maps.  That and the MRMS maps for radar, though I wish the latter included dual pol data.  The NWS used to have a map like that with it but it went away.

48 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

This winter really is a piece of shit and it's starting to piss me off. This next storm looks like its turning to shit and im tired of these front enders with C-1 or 1-2 that turn to mix or rain. Tired of it. Last winter was nothing but that.

19 minutes ago, Dan76 said:

The new reality. Sorry 88

LOL...you guys never would have survived the 80s and early 90s.  This was basically every winter.  Just enjoy what you have and you'll be fine.

3 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

It won't. They already went there with testing equipment and could not find a significant error. But clearly the evidence points to something being off. 

3 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

Pretty sure NWS BOX has already checked the ASOS equipment multiple times but found it ok....but I've yet to hear anything about investigating the siting variables. It's obviously running warm by about 2-3F since mid/late 2018.

It's definitely becoming a problem WRT local records though. There's already an incorrect monthly record too...last July was the "warmest July on record" at BOS, but everyone knows it's total bunk. None of the other climo sites were even close.

I was just hopeful that before we start putting all time records in the books that there would be some kind of analysis to make sure it reflected reality.

Do the guys checking the sensor also look at the siting for issues like you mentioned? 

My guess is that this is never going to be fixed.  It's probably going to go the way of BDL in the early 90s.  BDL used to radiate then better than it does now and I remember having discussions over a change that occurred and it's been that way for 25+ years.

With BOS setting a record monthly temp yesterday, does anyone know if that will finally get someone to look at the readings there?

43 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

They say our climate is heading towards what DC is now 

DC's average annual temp is 58.2.  BDL's is 50.5.  That's 7.7 degrees warmer.  I think the IPCC's likely projection is about half of that.

21 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

That’s an above normal night up here in July lol.

Peak climo for me is a min of 58°.  On 1/16/1995 I had a low of 55° which is my all time January record high min.  Just might break that after 25 years and it shows how special this air mass is.

Max temp so far today for me is 64°.  That's 9 degrees above the previous record max for the day of 55 set in 2014.  Quite an impressive jump!

29 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

It's definitely anomalous for January but it happens every few years I'd say where we get a huge SE ridge bulging up and sending huge height anomalies into our region along with temps over 60F. 

I know it's December, but growing up I seem to recall every few years we'd have a toasty December day.  I even recall in my 20s going out in Christmas shopping deliberately in my shorts with temps near 70.  I think that day is still my warmest December day.

43 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I snowblowed 3-4” from the driveway twice. If it was fake it was a fake pain in the ass. lol

No different than a fake cold 32° and having to scrape your windshield.  

Seriously, congrats on the snow...it's always special to get hit like that.  Happened to me once in the 90s.

2 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Skiing in CT has always been a myth. 

http://www.nelsap.org/ct/ct.html

Just now, cut said:

There was an article (Sports Illustrated maybe?? Not sure, can't remember) about the impact of warming on outdoor sports, specifically hockey. They focused on Canada and the number of 'skate days' if you will. That is to say the number of skate able, outdoor rinks per winter day. The decline in skate days was depressingly remarkable. Im sure if applied the same thing to say, snow mobile days we would find similar results. I know skiing here in CT isn't what it used to be and Many places have folded.

There's a lot more factors involved in that than just snowfall.  Skiing and ski areas have just changed over the years.

1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

January. The writing has been on the wall for sometime . I love snow as much as you , but looking at the pattern , I’m also realistic. I can see how Scooters snow could happen around the 7th. But before and after that , looks awful. And if it looks awful here, NYC would be worse. I’m not punting the month, but I’m setting uber low expectations so I’m not disappointed 

It's over but it's not over?  I don't understand this logic of tossing anything 300+ hours out but yet we know the details of an entire month ahead?  I can tell you're in sales if you're trying to sell that logic.

In terms of snowfall, I'm at 22.7" for the season.  My 35 year normal to date is 14.8" so I'm already ahead 7.9".  I only need 8.9" for the entire month to stay normal.  I've received that in the vast majority of January's, including January 2012 so while it might not be a "normal" month (we still need to see), all is not lost for having a "normal" snow season.

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

Too often there's sleet mixed with snow so you can't separate them out. 

Yep...Frozen precip is frozen precip.

12 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Yeah pretty much all sleet and hail so not snow .  At least it’s white. Keep getting bouts of heavy sleet moving thru

So you're not going to count that in your seasonal snow total are you if it's not snow?

About the same here but there was also about 0.1" earlier that melted so 1.1" on the day for me.

Pouring sleet bouncing off my bald head in thunder and lightning...lol

Lots of thunder and lightening here...didn't expect that for some reason.

35 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

It's enough to add to the snow-tracker.  We're close to an inch at this point, coming down nicely.

That's awesome!  Don't count it though.  The goal posts moved so you can't count it unless it falls after the 20th.