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3 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

There are a few of these areas all over. I know of one not far from State College PA. They call it the barrens.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0477(1980)061<1368%3ATBCPYR>2.0.CO%3B2

I love weenie spots like that.  I always seem to seek places like that out, not just temperature but snowfall wise as well.  Even as a kid I put a thermometer down the hill from our house in the woods when I learned that cold air sank...lol

5 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

So we just discovered a -41 at Jackman Saturday morning. Nice fake cold.

Impressive.  I'm sure people were burning fake oil and kWh's at that time.  Good thing it was was fake...

45 minutes ago, dendrite said:

You would hate it here on the edge of the radar. 

59 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I know..keep thinking that too....but it looks to be a change from what we had. Of course everyone measures this by what their backyard shows, but the idea is that the big pieces change. Hopefully the surface aspect of it will too. 

yeah, it does look like that.  I'd like some snow but I'll also take seasonable temps for my maple season.  Taps are all in and ready for runs!

38 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

That’s what most folks are thinking.Head fake, pump fake,any buyers left with just shins below the knees.For most .. the hope is there, but the money stays in pockets

I'll buy it when it's here.

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah after mid week next week. Until then, it's meh...although weekend will be spring-like.

It looks like right at the end of the month.  We've been here before so let's hope Lucy (the planet) doesn't pull the ball like it did in January.

29 minutes ago, kdxken said:

While we await the storm

This is awesome :

https://www.masslive.com/news/2020/02/westhampton-trail-cam-bobcat-and-coyote-on-the-move.html

If you like that sort of thing I post a video every month on what I pickup in my woods on my YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXpoSRvXm_A&list=PLisuzvJIODKZqOCRXBDOtILq8KM-vVxnS

I usually get bobcat's and coyote's along with deer and a lot of other small critters.  This month a fisher showed up as well.  It's pretty neat what shows up when people aren't around.

4 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

I can't wait till we rate this winter, there's gonna be 100Fs, a few Cs and D from north country and one A.

Anyone wanna venture a wild guess who the A will be from?

If you're gonna use letters, whats your criteria for each one?  Are we only talking about met winter or the entire snow season? 

Could we use the AWSSI which uses actual numbers and puts different locations into their respective percentiles?  At least you could compare different sites, it's not subjective and it includes all the different criteria of winter weather like temperatures, snowfall and snow depth.

19 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

6 here this year, 2.5 in 1989 and 4.5 in 2007, between those dates

I didn't look at 2007 but thanks for pointing that out.  I had 9.7" during that period here.

3 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

I was trying to think today.  I’m pretty sure , for this area of NE CT.. this is the worst winter(snowfall wise YTD) since a winter in the early 2000’s. Maybe 11-12 is close . Other than that which I’m not sure about.. this has been the worst in close to 20 years. At least from what I can recall. To have 5-6 “ of snow between Dec 20 - Feb 20 is almost impossible to do in the hills . Maybe Metherb has some  data 

If we're only looking at the 12/20-2/20 period (which we haven't reached yet) and the past 20 years, this year's 7.8" is the lowest.  2012 had 9.7" and 2002 had 9.0" of snow during that period.  However, it's not the lowest I have during that period.  That record goes to winter 1989 with only 4.7" of the snow.  I don't have any records before winter 1986 but that's what the data says.

12 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Dennis ?

I had to look it up...it's a weather channel name for the storm in the Atlantic.

11 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

It’s been one of the worst periods on record since New Years around here...the numbers speak for themselves...but I could never rank the overall winter near 2011-2012 or 2001-2002 or even winters like 1994-1995 or 1999-2000....can’t just ignore the snows we had in December with cover nearly the whole month during the holiday season. None of those other seasons had any period like that.  

I’d I lived on the coast where the snow was less and melted pretty quickly then I’d definitely feel different. 

Anyways, hopefully we get a couple bombs to finish the season. 

I agree and if you look at it objectively, '02 and '12 were much worse in terms of snow, temperatures, etc.  I'd take this winter over those any day, especially '12 with the warmth that it had.  Going back though, we've had other worse winters but people have short term memories so I'll stick with the last 20 years.

1 hour ago, tamarack said:

That's not the greatest tourist attraction around.    I've only been there related to work, and that way back when I lived in Fort Kent.  What brought you into that country?  Also, I'd postulated Riviere du Loup as perhaps a "border" town with Gaspe being points NE from there, and I think it's 100 miles or less from Estcourt Sta, so your Gaspe call might be on target after all the hoorah.

It's the northern tip of New England.  I like going to geographical places like that.  This fall we went to the southern most tip of Connecticut so it was kind of neat going to the northern and southern most points so close like that.

1 hour ago, WinterWolf said:

Well either way..100 miles over the Maine border, is not just over the boarder imo.  10-15 miles Over then sure. Not 100 miles.  
 

And yes...I’ve been to Estcourt station on my sled...other then snowmobiling....why would one go there?  There’s nothing there?  Fishing perhaps? 

Everything is relative I guess.

42 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Hit 1.4 here this morning for the low. You must have been colder in the elevated valley .

Actually it only dropped to 1 here.  If we don't drop below zero next weekend, we might go the whole winter without dipping below zero.  Wouldn't be the first time but just shows how mild it's been.

1 hour ago, tamarack said:

Unless one goes thru the woods to cross from Estcourt Station.  However, that area drains into the St. John, so IMO it's not Gaspe.

The airport I saw that was -40 this morning was about 75-100 miles north of the Maine border.  I think it's in the Gaspe but not specifically sure.  I was just trying to give geographically challenged folks an indicator of where it was.  I've actually traveled to that area many times so I'm familiar with it.  This past summer I was in Estcourt Station and iEdmunston.  I know Edmunston is in New Brunswick but the area northeast of there is Quebec and I thought the Gaspe.

Either way, it's outside of Maine but I thought close enough and an impressively low temp to mention.

33 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Well to be fair ...the Gaspe isn’t just over the boarder lol.  

How so?  You cross the border of northern Maine and you're in the Gaspe region of Quebec.  Either way it north of the border and out of the U.S. Not sure why you're splitting hairs.

9 minutes ago, dendrite said:

The Masardis -36 was the coldest I could find on mesowest. Maybe there’s some coop in the hydro obs up in mooseville that was colder.

I missed that one.  -30s being handed out like candy up there..lol

Not that it matters but I also saw a -40 just north of the border in Quebec at Causapscal Airport in the Gaspe.

15 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Heard some tree popping last evening as I walked the dog with temp -13, with one especially loud pop from a spot with maple and ash, undoubtedly from one of the maples.  Had mid -20s this morning, about 99% chance it's the coldest morning of the winter.  (And close to the median for bottom of winter here.)

One year I tapped when it was pretty cold (single digits/teens) and I don't know if I was putting the taps in too hard or the fact that I put the tap in while it was cold and I had a few trees develop vertical cracks.  Just want to avoid that again!

We might have a shot next weekend with that cold shot for a colder reading but you might be right...this morning might have been our coldest, that's for sure.

12 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Seems to be the bottom.  

First Connecticut Lake was also -35

Only got to down to 1 here.  Just might go the entire winter without a below zero reading.

Meanwhile, I noticed some -35's in NNH & NME.

I have more tapping to do today but will wait a bit for things to warm up a bit.  Tapping in the cold risks splitting the tree and I don't want that!

42 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Lets see if we can get a big one 4 years in a row in March....we're testing our luck. I think ORH has only ever had 4 above average snowfall Marches in a row one time in their record (1958-1961)..

That's where I am, at least cold wise.  

42 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Spring and rewards don’t fit in New England. 

Sure...I guess sweet maple syrup doesn't count as a reward from nature.

10 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

been reading tweets and posts about changes coming since the end of December...it's now mid-February. spring training has started...we're almost a month away from the equinox...we are now exiting peak climo and slowly hedging towards spring climo. 

I'm not sure what baseball's spring training has to do with the weather but met winter ends in 16 days and then it's spring.  It still snows in spring.  Yeah I don't think deep winter is coming but I don't think we're done for cold and snowy days.  It gets more difficult after mid-March (a month from now) but March's have produced before and no one can say with certainty that this one will or won't.  The pessimists will say no while people like myself will look at the empirical data when it's all said and done and see if it did.

2 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

+1” of glop 

26.6” YTD

It wasn't gloppy at 3a..nice snow before the change over.  

Woke up at 3:30 just in time for the turn over to snow.  Had 1" at the time for a solid ground cover.  Nice to see the white stuff again!  I thought we were done though?

7 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I think a lot of us forget what a normal or slightly below normal season really feels like. We’ve been spoiled a lot the last 2 decades. Yeah, we know we’ve been lucky and that we’re due for regression, but it doesn’t make it any easier when you’re actually living through one of the down years...especially if it’s more down than usual. 

I don't know about other people my age but I think it helped me growing up with crappy winters.  It was pretty much the norm with the exception of a few storms/years and so I've just come to take what I get.  I've told the story before of how in the December 1992 blizzard I had 3" but literally a few miles down the road there was over a foot.  I think some posters heads would explode if that happened to them today.  It's just not mathematically possible to constantly have above normal years.

At least we still have a few months left where chances could pop up...