Buckeyes_Suck

Brothers house in S Wales this morning.

Most isobars ever.

Your trees still holding most of their leaves? Around here you can tell who has had a decent frost and who hasnt...

Few degrees colder and that would be a legit blizzard.

So looks like next week is interesting one way or another...

Just like 2014! Lol not saying anything close to that will happen but that event was also set off by a strong typhoon.

Hopefully not the result of political influence...

One of these days were going to get a storm like this and all of these standing dead ash are going to come down. I had three come down during last falls long duration event, plus a huge cherry

Wasn’t there a typhoon that set off the downstream ripple prior to one of our prior early season events? Not saying that will happen here but I vaguely remember there being a very powerful typhoon with a similar track to hagibis that led to snow here... nm found it. The nov 14 event. https://buffalonews.com/2014/12/04/super-typhoon-western-pacific-shouldnt-cause-lake-effect-snow-time/

the streamers that keep pouring on me here in west falls look like lake effect to my untrained eye.

Even if you could sign up if you hold a view different than the mods they'll simply ban you for a made up rule... Or threaten to ban you because they think you're someone already banned member when you're clearly not simply because they cant believe someone doesn't share their views on politics.

Not a whole lot of action there....when is ampol back up????

Luc1f3r just signed up.

I would argue that the data doesn't go back hundreds of years, and that only remotely solid data only goes back 40 years. Automated systems for data gathering have really only widely been available for the past 20 years and economically feasible for mass distribution for the past 10 years. That said i'm not arguing at all against human caused global warming, just posting data that screams the sky is falling. My stance is that doing anything to try to affect the rate of warming at this point is a drop in the pond. All the green initiative here in the states is just nothing to what china and india are doing to the climate, and as Africa experiences a rapid and explosive industrialization over the next 50 years we will be even more negligible. Money better spent would be on relocating people from areas that will either be flooded or protecting low lying areas as water levels rise. Additionally, what if we are wrong and there is some other forcing that is driving climate change? Then all of this time and money that could have been spent on preparing for the worst would have been wasted on trying to prevent it.

I believe in science and I believe that the climate is warming as a result of human influence and that ice coverage will continue to go down because of it. That doesn't change that showing data for only the last 40 years only is misleading, especially as the 70's were notoriously cold.

I hate charts with an agenda.