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    October 2023

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    25 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

    75 here in Brooklyn 

    I'm going skinny dipping later

    Please reconsider Anthony. With blues and strippers possibly close to shore. …. Think of your future, happily married life. Stay well and dry, as always ……

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    Octorcher or Roctober 2023 Discussion Thread

    in New England

    Posted

    28 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

    We often joke in here that rainy cutters followed by a frigid blast is a "1980s pattern"....those of us snow lovers who grew up with that remember all too well and not in a good way.

    I remember growing up in the 50’s, my father saying that it was cold enough to snow or too cold to snow. Knowing little more than I do now about the machinations of the atmosphere I hung onto the 12 inch Magnavox weather forecasts or the radio. I would get so angry when it was so cold because invariably I’d hear the same radio refrain; “increasing cloudiness and milder”. The weather guy on Dave Garroways today show would say, we  need one of these lows to the south to plug into one of these cold highs over us to get snow. Such, as a child was I satisfied. Now, in the last of my years, hearing what it takes to get snow to the coastal plain I think of such simplicity as nostalgic and endearing. Thank you for the memory ORH. Stay well, as always …

     

    Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

    Looks like the extremely warm anomalies are actually coming from north to south (maybe from the polar region?)  Vermont for example has already warmed by over 5 degrees on average during the winter?

    The lobster season in Maine is endangered too, those babies are migrating further north into the Maritimes now!  They were once near Long Island, migrated to Maine and now they're headed for Canada!

     

    Hello Liberty, I pray all is well with you. In college, over 55 years ago, a group of us were moaning at the decline of popular fish like the porgy, flounder, whiting, sheepshead. A fellow in the group mentioned he was a diver and said  lobster's were in the channel leading into Sheepshead Bay, he mentioned some were a good size. I doubt you would find them today. Stay well, Liberty, as always ….

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    October 2023

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

    No one would buy it if it said "warm and snowless"   They are the JB of weather LOL

     

    40 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

    i would buy it and frame the pages

    Good morning everyone. Well at least, now, we know what it will take to get a combined back and front loaded productive winter. Stay well all, as always …..

    Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    On 10/14/2023 at 1:56 PM, donsutherland1 said:

    Between 1961-1990 and 1991-2020, Miami has had an increase of 40 90-degree or above days. This year has seen a record number of 90 or above through 95 or above days. Climate change is leading to warming air temperatures and more frequent marine heatwaves, both of which impact Miami.

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    2 hours ago, Eskimo Joe said:

    It's certainly an uphill battle in the US with decision makers like this in office.

     

    Good evening Don, EJ. I read a post in the New England sub forum referring to the increasing average length of first to last freeze in Boston. D I T asked the non jocular speculative question will we see the first frost free year in our lifetime. I thought, sadly, living in NYC, that the Big Baked Apple will likely do it first. Stay well, as always ….

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    October 2023

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Wannabehippie said:

    I went out without a jacket. You must be affected by the colder, winter temps than me. Temps in 50s don't seem too bad to me. But then again, if temps get in to mid 60s I probably will be wearing shorts.

     

     

    45 minutes ago, nycwinter said:

    well as you get older in life things do not work like they use to....

    Good afternoon W b h/ nycw. Be blessed or not by the internal thermostat. Most of what doesn’t work for me is no longer necessary. Stay well, remain healthy, as always ….

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    Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    15 hours ago, forkyfork said:

    just think: in winter all this rain will translate to colder rain

     

    7 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

    But it will feel cold

     

    6 hours ago, the_other_guy said:

    I stopped watching them and going to their site after they started this. Sensationalist bs for the social media masses

     

    4 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

    I agree, however I could see using names for blizzards on the level of 78, 96, 03, 05, 15, 16. 

     

    3 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

    But you just say 96 everyone knows what you mean...well at least we do. I don't need to remember it as Blizzard Bert or winter storm calliope

     

    3 hours ago, forkyfork said:

    zyler's gonna be the big one

     

    3 hours ago, forkyfork said:

    if they run out of names do they use greek letters

    Good afternoon everyone. Cold season 23/24 let the games begin…… Stay well, as always …..

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    October 2023

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

    I dont think the city people understand how much cooler suburbs are at night and how much cooler a detached house surrounded by trees really is.

    My heat has been on and off during the night for a couple of weeks now with a central hvac system set at 70

     

    1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

    Yeah when I lived on the 4th floor of an apartment building we never turned on our heat and usually had to open windows

    Good afternoon t o g p, S 74. Very true regarding urban temperature and heat within a building. Living in a 140 year old row house, i remember…  my lost love was complaining that the rooms were cold not too long after the steam heat had come up. I remember her saying “where is all the damn heat going”. Our floor had 12 foot ceilings, which  was customary for the parlor floor of those buildings. I got my aluminum step ladder and asked her to climb up as far as she could and tell me how it feels. I believe she thought I had lost a brick or two from the chimney but she humored me and climbed to the top and gasped. I suggested we lower the ceiling or replace the chandelier with a ceiling fan. My love said no to both suggestions. So on days when the out side winds and temperatures were at their worst she would wear one of the beautiful sweaters her mom had crocheted.Thank you for the memory. She looked so beautiful smiling and warm at the top of that ladder. Stay well, as always …

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    Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    51 minutes ago, Will - Rutgers said:

    we are all part of the cycle forky.  the poorest, the richest, the kings, the paupers, the elephants, the mosquitos, all are bound by the earth, and all must return to it eventually

    except that one species of immortal jellyfish that never dies

    Bravo, Will. I’ve read that some folks of extreme means are spending a considerable amount of their wealth in the search for immortality. Here a life form, beautiful in its simplicity, lives on naturally, as the searchers cannot. It’s also kinda hot for a jellyfish. Stay well, “ live long and prosper” as always …..

     

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    Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    Good morning everyone. I walked out into the postage stamp this am. I was enjoying the relatively mild air and the occasional drops of rain filtering through my 40 year old unending acorn giver. Looking around everything seemed so green and vibrant for an October 7th. I chanced to look down and saw a lone leaf dressed for the season. My elder thoughts raced to joyous Falls past and then poignantly to Autumns of the future. Stay well, as always.

     

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    October 2023

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

    Living along the Wallkill River this is fog season, here's a shot from this morning driving up the hill and out of the fog

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    Good morning Rob a magnificent photo. It brings to mind the last few lines of S & G’s Homeward Bound.     
    Home where my thought escapin’

    Home where my musics playin’

    Home where my love lies waitin’

    Silently for me

    Silently for me  ……………….. 

    Sadly no longer, stay well, as always ……

     

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    September 2023

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

    At least to me, it’s more an issue of the long term integrity of the site than any climate change influence. Up through the 1980s, there was much less obstruction from trees. So comparing the pre-90s new ASOS observations to today is more like a change of location. So it’s hard to compare changes over time since fundamental way of measurements were taken there has changed. So artificially cooled lower highs during the leaf out season and more potential errors in measuring rainfall with trees sheltering the rain gauge and leaves possibly falling into the gauge. Plus professional snowfall measurements by NWS staff before they moved to OKX in the early 90s. To more sporadic measurements at times by different organizations that often measure too late after small snow events allowing the melt to lower the snowfall amounts.
    The article below is from 20 years ago and the tree growth has only increased.

      

    Central Park Weather: Vegetative Overgrowth Affecting Weather Readings - WABC-TV

(New York-WABC, August 22, 2003) - Forecasting the weather is not easy.
Government equipment can often be blamed for giving faulty weather
information. As Bill Evans explains, a big culprit may be some of the
equipment buried in Central Park.

Rainfall, snowfall, and the temperature are all vital information
recorded 24 hours a day at the weather station located in the heart of
Central Park.

But meteorologists like Michael Schlacter have serious concerns about the
accuracy of the stations data. It sits amid overgrown vegetation and he
says thats the problem. The leaves can trigger snow gauges and trees can
warp rain and wind measurements. On this hot day, a temperature gauge is
in the shade instead of direct sunlight.

Michael Schlacter, Weather 2000: "Its kind of like driving a car
without a speedometer, odometer, and gas gauge. You are running with
false information."

The weather instruments at Belvedere Castle have long adorned the top.
There used to be a government meteorologist here in the city to keep an
eye on them. But now the nearest meteorologist is 60 miles that way.

But National Weather Service meteorologists say they knew the weather
readings in the park would never be as keenly accurate as the ones at
the airports where guidelines prevent foliage from being within 100 feet
of the station.

Schlacter: "We knew that at times we would have flaky readings, that
leaves would fall in gauges, that we would have problems with
visibility sensors."

[NWS Meteorologist-in-Charge Michael] Wyllie says the weather station is
there because it was historically significant to maintain its presence
in the park.

He says theres been a lot of growth because of the wet spring at so much
in fact that temperatures have routinely been recorded lower in the park
than at the airports.

Wyllie: "We are actually having a micro climate system there because of
the vegetation."

Imperfect perhaps but nonetheless the system provides the official record
of weather for the country's largest city. And Michael Schlacter says
its a city that deserves better.

Schlacter: "I think New Yorkers deserve a lot better, and I think they
deserve the best weather station money can buy."


Copyright 2003 ABC Inc., WABC-TV Inc.

     

     

     

    Sadly it a long/hard learn …. 20 years into the demonstrative lesson. As always …..

    September 2023

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    1 hour ago, bluewave said:

    Even with the cool and wet ending to the month, several stations will finish with another 70° September.

     

    Data for September 1, 2023 through September 30, 2023
    Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
    State
    Name
    Station Type
    Mean Avg Temperature 
    NY PORT AUTH DOWNTN MANHATTAN WALL ST HEL ICAO 72.4
    NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 71.4
    NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 71.3
    NY MONTAUK AIRPORT WBAN 70.5
    NY WORLD TRADE CENTER WBAN 70.4
    NY MOUNT SINAI COOP 70.4
    NY FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 70.1


     

    Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of Sep
    Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
    Rank
    Year
    Mean Avg Temperature 
    Missing Count
    1 2005 74.9 0
    2 2015 74.1 0
    3 2016 73.8 0
    4 1961 73.6 0
    5 2007 73.0 0
    6 2018 72.8 0
    7 2021 72.7 0
    8 2010 72.5 0
    - 1959 72.5 0
    9 2019 72.1 0
    10 1998 71.6 0
    11 2017 71.5 0
    12 2023 71.3 1
    - 2002 71.3 0
    13 2020 71.1 0
    14 2022 70.9 0
    15 1971 70.8 0
    16 2012 70.7 0
    - 2011 70.7 0
    - 2004 70.7 0
    - 1985 70.7 0
    17 1983 70.6 0
    - 1968 70.6 0
    18 2014 70.4 0
    - 2008 70.4 0
    - 1980 70.4 0
    - 1970 70.4 0
    - 1941 70.4 0
    19 1965 70.3 0
    - 1953 70.3 0
    - 1945 70.3 0
    20 1999 70.2 0
    - 1957 70.2 0
    21 1952 70.1 0
    - 1946 70.1 0

    Good morning B W. After looking at your top list for September temperature  data, perhaps the CPK ASOS may be an appropriate place for individuals, who still don’t believe in the changing climate, to meet. Stay well, as always ……

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