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I believe they were just moved to Banter Hyde, which is where they should be. I didn't even realize we were in Walts Christmas Eve thread until I had posted.

Growing up in the 70's and college in the early 80's I had to endure the horrible disco era when it appeared rock was slowly being suffocated. By 1973 the groups I had loved as a little kid (The Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Beach Boys, The Who) pretty much everyone head in the clouds mentioned and then some, were breaking up or burning out. By 1975 we needed new blood and groups started to emerge to carry the torch. I remember in 1975 when I heard Born to Run for the first time, I thought there might be hope on the horizon. AC/DC emerged, lost their lead singer, but got another just as good. Skynrd kept getting better and better, then crashed (literally, tragically). Aerosmith kept it going but there was always the breakups and the drugs. By the late 70's Bruce gained a following then exploded, Boston was promising but couldn't get past that first album, Heart and the Wilson sisters rocked, a little later Tom Petty & THB exploded. Punk bands like The Ramones, The Clash, Patti Smith, and Blondie started to get mainstream play, with the exception of the Ramones who never really got their total due. It's nice that at least the Rock and Roll Hall of fame inducted them in 2002 during their first year of eligibility, but Joey was already dead by then and Dee Dee and Johnny would soon follow. U2 started getting airplay in 1981 and Def Leppard, Van Halen, John Cougar, RUN DMC, Prince and others soon followed. The Stones, The Who, Bowie, Queen, Stevie Winwood started putting out new material again that got airplay, and more importantly MTV play (during the era when they actually played music) and by 1982 Disco was dead. Thank God almighty and thank you to all the bands that refused to let rock die. Rock is dead they say, long live rock Long live rock, I need it every night Long live rock, come on and join the line Long live rock, be it dead or alive

2.2 above zero. Snowpack and clear skies doing its thing.

2.2* 3 degrees colder than anything I recorded last winter

7.9° at a little past midnight. I don't think I'll make 0° but most likely will surpass last winters low, of 5.1° last February 15th.

Wind, warm, rain, the three snowpack killers all at once. It wouldn't shock me on Christmas Eve if fire rained down from the sky too, just to complete the job.

At this point let's hope it just keeps cutting farther west, and spares us most of the rain. It would be the last 2020 kick in the ass to wipe out this beautiful snowpack on Christmas Eve.

It would be a Christmas miracle, but maybe this is where 2020 finally throws us a bone. Would love it if it happened, it is six days out so who knows, but I won't expect it.

With a seasonal average of 5 inches I guess they're always in a snow drought. LOL It's almost like saying Atlanta is in a snow drought. When is it a snow drought and when is it just your climate norm.

This Christmas Eve rain event as depicted currently on several models will suck worse, if it happens as currently depicted. Why do setups like those never seem to change much even 7 days out?

This time of year I find 30's have very little impact on snow pack, even when sunny. Add to it that the current snow pack wich is 12 inches here, Orange County, has a LE of 1.5 inches. The late December sun, even in the 30's will do very little damage to that. It's a different story of course in urban areas with all of the blacktop, higher daytime highs, traffic etc. However rain and high 40's to low 50's on strong southerly winds, that would be a snow killer on Christmas Eve if it happens as currently depicted.

That could really kill a lot, it not all of the snowpack on Christmas Eve. Boy would that suck.

I'm not sure, but Toronto averages 47 inches of snow a season and Seattle averages about 5 inches a season. I'm assuming long periods between 10 inch snowfalls in Seattle are pretty common.

The most recent storm at 10.5 inches didn't even make the Top 50 list in NYC, but it did become the 16th storm of 10 inches or more since 2000 and the 66th since 1869 when records have officially been kept. The storms since 2000 are highlighted in red.

I lived in Madison Wisconsin for several years and people never believe me when I tell them it snows a lot more here in the Hudson Valley then it does there. It's colder there, but cold and dry. A big storm to them is 6-8 inches, but of course it does stay on the ground longer than places in and close to NYC. Big storms are a rarity in the Midwest, the perfect example is Minneapolis. They have been keeping weather records almost as long as NYC, since the 1880's. They average about 50 inches of snow per season, similar to Toronto, but In that time they have had 5 storms with more than 17 inches of snow, New York City has had 16 storms over 17 inches in the same time span. I wish I could remember the exact length of time because I heard it in the last year, but the gap for 10 inch snowfalls in Toronto is incredibly long right now. I forget how many years but maybe Bluewave, Don, Uncle W or someone of that ilk knows.

Napped when I came in from snow blowing and shoveling the front porch. Agree with all of the above posters about aging. When snow blowing knocks me out, from a task I use to do by hand 10-15 years ago you really do realize your getting older.

Someone may have already posted this but the 1:00pm update in Central Park was 10.5 inches for the storm. The city now needs only 0.8 inches by the end of the month to reach a 30 inch average, when the new 30 year averages are calculated next month. Amazing when it looked like that was a lock 2 and half years ago and it's coming right down to the wire.

There have been 29 Decembers with 10 or more inches of snow in NYC, but stupidly this morning I included this year being the 29th December with 10 inches or more in the calculations below. So there have been 28 full seasons in NYC with 10 or more inches of snow in December and here's how they fared. I'm sure most don't care but I do strive for accuracy, so here's the corrected percentages. 24 of those winters have then had 30 or more inches for the season or 85.7% 17 of the 28 have had 40 or more inches of snow for the season or 60.7% 9 of the 28 have had 50 or more inches of snow for the season or 32.1% 4 of the 28 have had 60 or more inches of snow for the season or 14.2% 1 of the 28 have had 70 or more inches of snow for the season or 3.6%

nope not that one

All the geniuses come out of the closet when we get a decent size storm.

I don't remember which storm but someplace on LI had 37 inches from one of these storms in the last ten years,

Revision of first post There have been 29 Decembers with 10 or more inches of snow in NYC 24 of those winters have then had 30 or more inches for the season or 82.8% 17 of the 29 have had 40 or more inches of snow for the season or 58.6% 9 of the 29 have had 50 or more inches of snow or the season or 31.0%

It does appear that Central Park did officially record 10 inches of snow from this storm. A couple of things of note about that. This becomes the 66th storm since 1870 of 10 inches or more in NYC and the 13th in December. The breakdown by months as seen below. This now brings the December 30 year average (1991-2020) to 5.1 inches. December now needs 1.3 inches of snow to get the December average to 5.2 which will bring the 30 year average to 30.0. I hope it's in the cards.

no official updates since the 1am 6.5 inches. I saw people reporting 10.0 inches on twitter for the Park but not offical

11.5 inches as of an hour ago. Maybe i eke a foot but probably a hair short. With all the hype for us here, this pretty much matched the December 2nd storm from last year but in a much different way.