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  1. I don't know, I think the weaker/SE trend might be a bad thing.  With temps as borderline as they are I would think we would want a more wrapped up system to pull more cold air down to give us a quicker changeover.  Who knows though, 18Z HRRR improved quite a bit so maybe we can luck into a couple inches of cement.

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  2. 10 minutes ago, OHweather said:

    The warnings for that area said 2-4” and you’re gonna get the 2” instead of the 4”…this was never going to produce big snow totals in OH, although the I-71 corridor is looking to be the ones who get luckier in those regards as opposed to NW OH. 

    I'm just outside of Columbus for this event.  Looks like I might have lucked into a pretty good spot.

     

     

  3. 11 hours ago, OHweather said:

    I'm setting my local expectations to rain changing to a couple-few inches of wrap-around snow, with 50-60mph wind gusts and a dramatic temperature drop. I feel like that's a safe floor and is still quite a storm, though with fairly modest snow amounts. There's some potential it trends a bit less wrapped-up and east which could up the snowfall some, but given current depictions I would keep snowfall expectations somewhat in check unless we start seeing a solid east trend. My guess is the lake effect quickly becomes a southwest NY thing, as with a very deep low just to our NNE I feel winds would quickly go rather southwesterly as it pulls away. 

    I have to laugh a bit when I read the main storm thread and watch posters going apoplectic over every 20 mile shift in the models.  The important thing is that this system is going to be, unless things change dramatically, an absolute monster producing an enormous footprint over the Lakes and northern Ohio Valley.  This is a setup where the oft used sentence from the NHC applies - "do not focus on the actual path of the storm, as effects will be felt far away from the center".  It will probably not matter much whether we get 3 inches or 15 as the winds (which may well be underforecast) will be lifting a tremendous amount of snow.

    This afternoon's LOT discussion said it best.  It is for the Chicago CWA but could apply anywhere in the Lakes:

    It is also worth stressing that the amount of snow that falls is
    a secondary or tertiary concern among the hazards. The expected
    temperatures will leave this snow extremely susceptible to blowing
    around and even if only a couple inches of snow falls, a blizzard
    would still be likely given the nature of the snow and magnitude
    of the strong winds.

    I would expect a blizzard warning to be needed at least over the northern couple rows of counties (where the combination of wind and snow looks to be most severe) and possibly for the entire CWA.  I hope you guys at CLE continue to hit it hard.  This is looking like a truly life threatening storm.

     

     

     

  4. 31 minutes ago, nwohweather said:

    Sounds like the worst of it is definitely from Fremont eastward

    Over here in Huron, conditions are pretty similar to what Frog Town described, maybe a third of an inch per hour rates with 3/4 - 1 mile vis with S- falling.  Winds are howling out of the NE with 40-45 mph gusts.  Haven't been out but I have to believe the roads are brutal - our county is under a Level 3 snow advisory (meaning non-emergency travel is banned).  A decent storm, sure but a bit disappointing not to get 1" + / hr. rates and 1/2 mile or below visabilities.

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  5. 6 minutes ago, Powerball said:

    I have to imagine those Ohio numbers near the shore are, at least somewhat, lake enhanced.

    It would even more crazy if it were 100% synoptic.

    Lake Erie is pretty much frozen now (at least the western half) so there shouldn't be much, if any enhancement.  Not sure if the GFS knows that or not.

  6. Some really impressive lakeshore flooding around western Lake Erie today.  In my town the flooding is some of the worst I've ever seen.  The weather is so bad even Cedar Point had to close.  I can't imagine how bad this would have been if this had happened last year when the lake levels were higher.

     

     

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