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No one want to post maps even if its rain? 

Major bust on low temps here. Was forecast to get to 19 but only went down to 28. Unbelievable.


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Finished the day with 3”, that brings my total for this season to 8”.


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Just drove from Manhattan back home to Dutchess. No real accumulation until Putnam and then instant winter wonderland. Heading out to snowblow the driveway.


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10 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Who wants to create the February thread? 

Maybe its best to skip to March at this point.

35 with snow accumulating on colder surfaces.


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Magic 8 Ball - will February 2023 be the snowiest on record for the NY Metro area?



There you have it folks. You’re welcome.


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So you think the 70s and 80s represent the real local climate and the kids think that the 00's and 10's do.  Both are looking at this too narrowly.

Your supposition sounds like that of modern day journalists putting words in my mouth that were never uttered. I never made that claim at all, I merely stated that many on this forum never experienced years of horrible winters.

Recorded history is a spec compared all of history and to make assumptions on that limited span of time can be viewed by some to be narrow as well.


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This is most of the 70's.80's and 90's. I think the youngsters on the board think the climate of NYC is the period from 2000-2017. It's not. 12 inch plus snowstorms became common. IN the 70's, 80's you'd be happy for 4 inches. That would be a lot.

I lived through it, that’s why I find the remarks on this board hilarious regarding our current situation.


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I hear good things about Newburgh

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18 consecutive days with lows above freezing (January 13-30, 1932).

Because the climate always changes….


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80’s were cold, snowless or snow to rain. My Grandparents in Saugerties NY got tons of snow where NYC had rain. I loved to visit as a kid it was a different world.


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Sky just opened up and dumped ice pellets. Incredible. Ground white in 1 min.


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5 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, NYC now has a 10 year average around 40° in December. It only took 30 years for us to get what used to be normal for DC in the 1990s. So we are becoming more like the Midatlantic.

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for Washington Area, DC (ThreadEx)
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Year	Dec	Season
Mean	40.2	40.2
2000	31.8	31.8
1999	42.0	42.0
1998	44.4	44.4
1997	41.0	41.0
1996	43.0	43.0
1995	35.6	35.6
1994	44.2	44.2
1993	38.1	38.1
1992	39.6	39.6
1991	42.3	42.3

 

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Year	Dec	Season
Mean	40.6	40.6
2021	43.8	43.8
2020	39.2	39.2
2019	38.3	38.3
2018	40.1	40.1
2017	35.0	35.0
2016	38.3	38.3
2015	50.8	50.8
2014	40.5	40.5
2013	38.5	38.5
2012	41.5	41.5

 

Yes - but why isn't the heat island effect taken into account?  We have more buildings, concrete, blacktop, vehicles and solar panels than ever before - all which absorb and release heat and way less grass, trees and open unpaved areas. So while it is indeed warmer its also deceptive.  If I take my house and spray foam the entire structure and then use the same amount of BTU's to heat it as before my average indoor temperature will have increased. I have read many articles over the years about improper placement of thermometers which violate the "good practices" set forth by NWS. So with all that in mind as well as the 30 year average being used its really a no brainer as to why its warmer. 

 

How is 30 Year an average?  Its dishonest as its not a true representation of the entire data set. That's like my kid telling me he got a 90 average but failed to include his spanish grade where he got a 40. I realize that the post actually does say 30 years but on TV or Radio that disclaimer is not included.

It’s very simplistic. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. And we are putting said gas into the atmosphere at an unnatural rate. The end 

Nothing is simple. We live in an extraordinarily complex eco system. Trees convert our CO2 into oxygen, volcanoes output more CO2 than decades of what our cars emit. The past was warmer than the present and cars weren’t around. It’s not simple at all.


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Thanks for highlighting the evolution and refinement of knowledge. Take a look at the period before and during the 1970's.

I see it differently than most.


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I think with climate change we might also be seeing a feedback effect, so with time the changes become more and more apparent.
So an analogy might be like....if steroids weren't banned, players would keep hitting more and more HR.....so McGwire with 70 and then Bonds with 73 and then a few years later someone else would hit 80, then 85, etc.

Climate change.


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No pool.
Would like an in-ground but I would have to cut lots of trees down.


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Paste job last night


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Too early 

That’s why I love MetsFan. You always hold out hope and I have seen plenty of times over the years when you ended up being right when everyone else gave up.


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7 days out. Just saying.


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Moderate snow here. Everything covered, plows and salters out. Radar looks weak but future radar insists it’s going to fill back in. Not buying it.


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Ice pellets here. Accumulating on both paved and unpaved surfaces. 33 degrees. Still under a WWA but local forecast only calling for MAYBE 1". Definitely colder here now than this time yesterday. 

Interesting ride down the Taconic this morning. When I got to 1200 feet there was snow for a mile or so but it was gone as I descended down the mountain.


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