KamuSnow

1 hour ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

We must be looking at different areas and research points?

Eta: I'm looking broadly at moderate el Nino years and novembers qith large snowfalls in philly.

What was 1989-90 as far as ENSO? That one left a mark on me apparently, lol. (So did October 2011).

Here is the snow pile yesterday shortly after things changed over to rain. I mentioned in October that the critters here have been going to town eating this fall - the squirrels in particular are looking pretty husky. Apparently the Squirrel Weather Network has the goods...not sure if the call was for an early snow or a long winter. Hopefully both .

45 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

1.7" was the official total down here in Baltimore (city)! County got like 5 inches. (Which is the most we've had in November since like 1989, lol) And the last time we even had measurable Nov. snow was 1995! You?

Nice - 1989 was 4" of dry powder on Thanksgiving Eve here but after mid December that winter was pretty meh. This year feels different so we'll see. Yesterday we got 4.6" and it took a serious beating from over an inch of rain last night but we still have 2 or 3" on the ground in most spots, along with a boatload of leaves. Quite the storm especially for November!

59 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Very true...and I didn't mean to mock them or sound condescending (I apologize if it came off that way). Of course, I hope they're both wrong for snow's sake (not to rub it in)...and that's probably why it may have sounded that way! (I'll be a little depressed if we end up with a mixy winter...but I hope the NAO can save that from happening!)

It occurred to me that I may have misread the tone of your post, so it's cool that you replied. And we're all for maximum snow, except for maybe Voyager, but he has to drive large heavy trucks in it so we give him a pass. Here's hoping! How did you do yesterday?

So I wonder if the NWS has taken into account the snow cover for the forecast temps over the next couple of days or if we'll knock a couple degrees off of our forecast highs and lows, especially with the relatively low sun angle.

19 hours ago, RedSky said:

Either King euro is back or it got lucky with winter storm #1. Time will tell.

 

Short term it's pretty reliable!

1 minute ago, penndotguy said:

Agree the snow was quite powdery and easy to shovel at first, if u got to it early before the sleet fest. But we didn’t get much freezing rain just freezing drizzle. And now the backedge is moving through we picked up another 1.5 so I’m going with 8.5 total snow. I’ll take it for November 

Yeah I did some shovelling right before it changed to rain here and was reminded how dense and heavy sleet is, lol.

1 minute ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

I remember watching that game.  At some point, you couldn't even see the lines on the field.  The sports pundits were ecstatic because they felt it represented "real" football!

Crazy (and fun) to play in no doubt. We had to take a family member to the airport for a 5 pm flight - took 2 hours to get there, fortunately the back roads weren't jammed up.

14 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

Have now transitioned to all snow - although it's relatively light.  Temp still @ 33.

But in other news - just saw this... LOL A camel walking along 309 near Souderton during the storm yesterday!

Apparently it was on its way to an event at the Kimmel Center (but it was eventually decided to not have him appear) -

That's hilarious .

7 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

And as you know, that was the epic "Snow Bowl", a legendary storm for this forum!

Oh yeah, it was awesome. Also the day I joined this forum!

7 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said:

So it sounds like both you and @Ralph Wiggum's forecasts will either live by the NAO or die by it...lol I'm REALLY gonna be watching it now! And of course...it would only take one storm during even a passing neg NAO to also work out better for the corridor, right? (And of course, if it finally breaks it's recent pattern become a more dominant feature...even better, right? (aren't weeklies hinting at least going into December as negative? Of course, too early to say if it stays there, I guess)

I give them credit for making the effort to do the research and put the thought into it that they do, and I appreciate it. Kind of early to say how the winter will turn out. I'm sure they like snow and a good storm as much as you and I and many others who post here. I like the way things look, but the weather can sure humble you if you get cocky.

5 hours ago, shadow_ said:

All i know is pennDOT dropped the ball on this one, an epic fail. On my way to work at 1:30pm i didnt see one salt or plow truck on 22...309...tractor trailers jackknifed cars in ditches and that was only a few inches then. On my way home just now all i see is cars in ditches and tractor trailers jackknifed on the side of the highways all over. The highway has this hard packed on snow/ice. Good storm tho, but the road crews were def not prepared for this one.

That might be a little harsh, imo. More of a group responsibility - there are probably people out there who shouldn't drive in snow, which doesn't help. The snow came down hard and with the latent ground heat melting the bottom layer with all that compression on top, you get effectively a sheet of ice. December 8th 2013 was a lot like this storm - 1st snow of the season, came down hard, forecast was underdone, and people in general were unprepared. With all the cars on the road and gridlocked it's hard for plows and salt trucks to make a difference. If you read people like HM on Twitter you might have been aware of the potential for heavy snow in the mid day to afternoon, but even with that, it's just potential, it's the weather. So I can imagine PennDOT might have been under prepared, but so were many others, and even then I'm not sure how you overcome 2" an hour rates with roads packed with traffic in the middle of the day. Glad you made it home okay!

7 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

Looks like I will be changing over to frozen shortly!  Winds have really been roaring and temp is down to 34.

 

33 here now, with light snow, probably will wind down soon. Very windy indeed! Nice to see more snow, even if it isn't sticking.

Rain showers here have changed over to snow, 34F. Gusty west winds.

Just now, Hurricane Agnes said:

I'm not even seeing one.  This thing is juiced up.

It seems to be bringing up more moisture from the south now.

I've got blowing and drifting leaves now on top of the crusty snow, lol.

2 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

Getting all light rain now which would be freezing on contact since the temp is 31.  Will call it at 4.25" to include the final coating of sleet/snow.  This was for sure about as  a storm as you can get.

Where's that dry slot when you need it?

And the snow turned into rain...waahh. But we did get 4.6" of snow and sleet, hopefully it won't get too abused tonight. Awesome early overperformer! Currently 30.9F with light freezing rain. Bamboo forest is starting to get bendy.

9 minutes ago, Plokoon111 said:

Forgot to take our gazebo tarp down; oops! Supports are a bit bent; maybe we'll be able to straighten them out?

Lol, happened to us with one of those 8'x10' tents a couple of years ago, we went away for a couple of days and had a surprise 2" tstorm while we were gone, came home to find it collapsed. Pretty much unsalvageable.

Settled into a mix of light snow and fine sleet here, temp has crept up to 28.9F.

7 minutes ago, Bluescat1 said:

I figured a half an inch then a little sleet and rain would wash it away. This took me by surprise, I didn't even get the leaves raked up yet.

 

Lol here we now have leaves on top of the snow, the wind shook a bunch of sweet gum leaves loose.

19 minutes ago, MacChump said:

had gone to almost all sleet in Wilmington in the last heavy band, and we are now back to mod snow

edit: pings on my windows, but i'd say about 95% snow

Pretty much the same here. Measured 4.2", not sure what's next, radar is thinning out to the south. 28.4F currently. Fwiw traffic cleared up a bit.

11 minutes ago, CoolHandMike said:

About to be under some of of the heaviest returns yet out here. Flakes are getting larger again, temp still holding at 27.

Still heavy here but some sleet mixing in now. Wind is picking up a bit. 28.2F, DP 25. 3.5" so far.

4 minutes ago, MacChump said:

How's the road?  I live in the neighborhood right at the top of the hill.  May come in the back way if Smithbridge is a parking lot...

Howdy neighbor! Yes it has been a parking lot, although it's moving slowly now. 

1 minute ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

At least we now know what the "before" looked like now that the "after" epic snow pile is in progress!

Seems like a long time ago, even though it's only been 2 weeks or so. Things changed fast this fall, didn't they!