TugHillMatt

You've got to live on a mountaintop or plateau these days to get real snows outside of January and February.

Good morning, all! Does this count as one of my dustings for the season? Have a fantastic day and may the winds blow from your house to Delta's...

I can already see where mid week next week is heading. It will be a hit to the east. It's either cutter or east coast. We just seem to get dying primaries and cold fronts.

Ha! That person is one of the ugliest personality, vile, rude, "victimized" individuals across this weather forum.

Hah! What a mess. I said about a month ago that the pattern was looking like a hardcore +AO one, where all the cold gets bottled up to the north. The latest GFS looks like that:

Lol...the 2 of you definitely are seeing the start of this season differently? Rochester and Syracuse itself have started off this season super slow. Looking at well below average if the next few weeks don't produce. Here in the northern burbs of Syracuse we're doing better snow-wise with that LES event we lucked out on. As I've said numerous times, the Pacific Jet the past several winters has been killing our winters.

I reluctantly know that cutters will happen every winter....but we have had waaaaaaaay more than this past decade. You know I love snowcover....and we should get more than 3 to 4 weeks of snowpack.

Even if it does snow next week, it will melt the next day or two as temps jump right back into the 40s. Very reminiscent (for the next couple weeks) of our "coldest" periods of the 11-12 winter. The few times it did snow, the snow was gone the next day.

It's so ridiculous and maddening. Snowing in higher elevations (and lower) not too far away and the flipping furnace of Syracuse is always sizzling.

The REAL reason @DeltaT13 loves the wind...

Lol...Just, ugh. We get Tennessee summers and Seattle winters now. Just a little less extreme...for now. Well, I still have some snow piles around town from the lake effect win last week. I see lots of rain, snow, slush, rain, and wind in our near future.

You know we're entering Cutter-land when several days in the forecast are now predicted to have 40s and 50s for highs, there are wind advisories, and Buffalo and the Tug are excited for backside snows...

I guess the positive is at least we won't have a deep snowpack to melt any time soon...

Thanks! Watertown had a very wintry day yesterday. Getting WNW flow graupel showers this morning.

68 degrees? Or 68 mph?

Looks like the southern Tug is getting some good Orographic lift this evening. Wishing I was up there again for this. Via Northernchateau cams, it's looking like there's a good 5 or so inches on the ground with moderate snowfall continuing. Per usual, northern Onondaga county riding the line with spits of wet snow showers this evening.

Ha! Yup! Your question made me think of another thing about our subforum I am thankful for: We don't have any trolls that "model hug" and post every single model run to fit their agenda of "always cutters and rain" or "non-stop snowstorms." We have such a great group.

Truly it was. Elevation is key.. especially in these maritime-puke Winters of late. Winter here the past two Winters has featured 40 to 50 inches below normal snowfall and rapid melts.

Like I've said, our winters are eternal Novembers anymore. lol

Oh my, how I hate SW winds here. Went to bed in the 20s with a fresh dusting. Woke up to less snow than before and temp in the mid 30s. Sizzle can't be denied.

Same here. We still have an inch of snow caked on everything in the shade, as well as some snow piles from last week..so it's looked sort of wintry like. Looks like the lake may be adding a tiny bit of moisture for some weak snow showers. We really are "dusting champs" in these parts. I joke about getting 3431435 dustings, but really, we get so many of them. Nice fluffy flakes falling tonight with the colder temps.

In reference to some of the discussion earlier today, I think some of the angst is from looking at the synoptic systems, weak as they may be, have been providing synoptic snow to our west, south, north, and east (not southern New England) while anything that moves towards us is rain or falls apart. It's very reminiscent of last year. PA, mostly the northern part, has had a great start. (Remember, last winter was very good to that area of PA as well.) But, it's just the beginning.

We got home from Tennessee at midnight last night/this morning. It was blue skies until we got to north of Columbus, Ohio. We hit snow squalls right at Mansfield and then had them most of the way. Here was the run down on quite an interesting evening of traveling along Lakes Erie and Ontario: Mansfield through southern suburbs of Cleveland: Snow squalls with a heavy coating Cleveland (downtown and I-90 along lakeshore): No snow and temp up to 40 degrees Ashtabula: 36 degrees with heavy graupel showers making the roads a slushy mess Erie: 32 degrees with several inches of wet snow coating everything. Northeast, PA: Temp jumped up to 36 degrees with surprisingly the least amount of snow in that area Mayville/Westfield Exit (60): temp even higher at 38 degrees, but most amount of snow on the trip. Correctional Facility/Water Tower to Fredonia/Dunkirk: Heavy graupel and snow squalls with temps of 36 to 38 degrees with two different flashes of lightning! Buffalo Burbs: 34 degrees with misty snow and barely anything on the ground. Batavia: 32 degrees with an inch or two of snow. Batavia to Seneca Falls: Temperature remained consistent at 32 degrees the entire way with light, misty snow. Syracuse area: 32 degrees with an inch of fresh snow coating everything. The trees looked beautiful. Baldwinsville, Actually the coldest reading of the trip as we pulled into our parking spot at 30 degrees! Lol... No sizzle there... The Graupel squalls made roads horrible...pretty much like driving in sleet. It was a very interesting, but nervous evening of travel.

It really is dejavu from the past couple winters. Banding drops snow in PA, falls apart over WNY and CNY, and then heaviest echoes ride over....Lake Ontario! As far as the next couple weeks, looks like typical late November/early December weather. Cutters, backside snow showers, melt, cutter, repeat. Now, hopefully it just doesn't continue the entire winter. To be honest, I would rather have sunny and 60 than awful damp, 40 degree weather

The models seemed to have increased our snowfall amounts for the next couple days...but I am skeptical. We've been burned so many times by models and piddly dying waves. My call: Five more dustings this week.