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46 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

I've never heard it called that but this is probably the event.  These are hand transcribed central park observations neatly written by a very young weenie.  The plus sign was said weenie's convention for separating sustained winds from gusts. Check out that pressure and the temperature drop!  That was a flash freeze for the ages during the morning rush hour.

 

I found the below on the NWS Albany page. This also got me reading again about the Buffalo Blizzard in 1977 when they did record 12" but the bulk of the snow was blown into Buffalo from a frozen Lake Erie.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_of_1977#:~:text=The blizzard of 1977 hit,February 1 of that year.

https://www.weather.gov/aly/majorwinterstorms

7 minutes ago, amarshall said:

The nap is fantastic

Violenty agree. I woke up at the tail end of the last one I had and still didn't feel a thing but did see up close on the monitor where some people say my head is...

I've had four below zero mins so far this year, the most I've recorded was 15 in the '14-'15 winter. That winter is also my longest consective streak of below zeros, which was six. I'm currently at six days in a row below 32, the most I've recorded that was 14 days in the '17-'18 winter, and interestingly that winter I recorded a total of 23 days below 32 degrees. 

3 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

That pack depth map looks about right. Funny how the banks are so big and in the way, when we've had so much more on the ground before with fewer problems. I think back to the 40" pack a few years ago and, unless my old brain is more muddled than I thought, it seems like I had more room for snow than I do this time. *shrug* Anyway... I'd be good with another string of small, northern stream events keeping the pack fresh for a few weeks.

The piles and banks are huge and I atribute that to the higher than expeced water content in the snow. Something to keep in mind as we move towards spring.

3 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

I was -2.7 this morning. That would round to -3. That's the way I've always done it. If it had been -2.5 I would have done the same. 

Agreed. My -5.9 goes in the books as -6 and my -8.4 yesterday goes in the books as -8.

This mornings snow depth from CoCoRaHS.

-6 will do it for me,  -5 now. Snowpack at both stakes, opposite sides of the yard, are at 13.5" this morning. Sure theres been zero melting but sublimation and settling happens regardless. The storm this weekend ain't happening for us, would like to like see a number of small events, at least, in the next couple weeks to add back to the pack. 

54 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Per the Euro we are still below freezing through the 14th lol

The 0z has temps briefly sneaking up above freezing on the 7th. 

30 minutes ago, snywx said:

U were 14f colder! 
 

6 for a low here 

Perfect conditions for it. You'll see in the NW thread I post a screenshot that includes Legoland, 7 miles away as the crow flies, almost 19 degree difference. I thought I might have beat KMGJ for once but they got to -9 in between hours. When I was at -8 KMGJ was around 0. Cool stuff, only 2 miles away.  

Looks like -8 will do it for the low here, up to -7 currently. 

My forecasted low was adjusted from 4 to 2 last I checked around 9pm. It's currently -8

Today was .2 here. 2.9° currently. 

1 minute ago, wishcast_hater said:

Knowing is Half The Battle.


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Like knowing how to crop a photo?

10 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Of the mesos available on TT, FV3 and RGEM seem to have the best handle on where there is precipitation right now (18z).  Both give a coating to most of us this afternoon.  Not saying I believe it, but they are off to a good start.

Its legit light snow up here in central Orange County right now.

Low of 1 this morning, 15" at the stake. A nice solid pack out there this morning, https://maps.cocorahs.org/

Low of 1 at 8:17am, up to 13 now.

14 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

I'm in the 'wipe the board on phase changes' camp. 

Here is an example scenario illustrating some of the possible outcomes of only wiping once per 24 hours and not at phase changes.   Some of it isn't that far off from the reality of yesterday's event:

 - location 1 gets 8" of low water content fluffy snow and the storm ends.

 - location 2 gets the same 8" of low water content fluffy snow which then switches to sleet and 2" of sleet accumulate on top of it.  By the end of the storm later that day the snow depth has compressed to 8" (or less).

 - location 3 gets 2" of sleet first, followed by the same 8" of fluffy snow.

- locations 1 and 2 report snowfall as the maximum depth of 8"

 - location 3 reports a maximum depth of 10" as the daily snowfall.

Location 3 no doubt had the deepest snow depth.  Location 2 and 3 had the exact same amount of snow and sleet, but a different entry in the climate record.

Location 2 had more than twice as much frozen precipitation as location 1, but the only way to tell that is from the SWE.  They each report the same amount of snow and sleet.

On thing that stands out as being lost in these examples is the standard that snowfall includes snow and sleet.  Does it really include sleet for location 2?

We know that snowfall is the most poorly measured element of weather, although I guess PWS wind measurements are right up there for different reasons. We almost need a separate thread for those of us that use a properly placed snowboard and clear using the same metrics. Your post though reminded me of many years ago, 2015 I want to say, a poster had say a 12” snowpack then reported 6” of pure fluff. The next day I asked them what their snowpack was and they said 18” and I just rolled my eyes as the odds of zero settling of fluff snow over 24 hours were zero to none. That’s not even getting into people not understanding sublimation.  

5 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

Did you get any sleet? I woke up to a nice crust of pellets glued together with some freezing drizzle.

I definitely had freezing drizzle this morning. I didn’t hear any sleet but if you got pellets up there it’s hard to imagine I didn’t have some too. It’s a meaty pack kinda like baking soda out there. 

13.1” on the board melted down to 1.80” of liquid. Season total sits at 38.3”. 

28 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

Melted down to 1.45" for a meaty 10:1

I didn’t even get that good a ratio, the core from the board which had 13.1” on it melted down to 1.80”. It started out at much better ratios as the snow was fluffy but it changed during the storm. It also shows it was compacting under its own weight on the board for 24 hours. Again, shoveling felt much more like 18”, which also makes more sense now. 

Just now, weatherpruf said:

there was widespread 8-15 so who really cares....looking at massachusetts today and they are posting some big numbers in some areas, though most are not much higher than ours. in laws in maine getting ready. but they have tractors up there.....

Weenies are gonna ween and then there's the jackpot fetish. You have wonder how many know what an actual 6" looks like.  

2 hours ago, Picard said:

Now I'm questioning my own 12.2" total because it does seem a bit low compared to others around me.  Admittedly, I did not do the clearing technique which I should, so it was probably more (say 13-14") but it had compacted.  Mom in Lafayette is telling me 16" but admits it was hard to measure.  Either way, I'll take a foot plus.  It was a fun storm.

Don’t question it, you measured it correctly, you should only clear the board once a day, when the storm is over, or changes precip type. There are a lot of inflated totals out there. 

Just finished with outside.  I shoveled out my downspouts and oil fill area, this stuff ain’t going anywhere with more to come. I really hope we have an easy slow melt when the time comes… I also already benched and moved some of my piles to make room for whatever’s next. 

It's all light snow now. 

Freezing drizzle/mist with the occasional flake thrown in there, 18/16.