IrishRob17

2 minutes ago, North and West said:

You have to throw out this year and come back next Thanksgiving.


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Seasons ovah. 26/11, gonna be a cold one with that bright moon bouncing off the snow. Gonna lock up my first teens of the season, looking like before midnight. 

1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

Of course it is upstate NY.

 

Just sharing a photo…as I often do when conditions warrant 

The season is already getting to some, hate to see it. 

Another day of flurries, maybe a heavier squall in a bit, 38/26. 

4 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

@NorthShoreWx, and anyone else with knowledge, I need a ruling here. The snow changed to sleet, I measured 3.1" at that point, and then eventually a bit of freezing drizzle before stopping around Happy Hour when I cleared my board. Then in the evening I got some back edge snow showers and I had .1 on the board this morning. I believe that I count that, which would bring storm total to 3.2". Do you agree?

13 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

TLDR: Yes, that's what I would do.  

To my knowledge, but with low confidence, there is still the "greatest depth in 24 hours" thing. There's so much noise and conflicting guidance on the web, including between different NWS pages, that its near impossible for us mortals to be definitive. Plus, there's different standards for airports/ASOS sites and other users.  Not sure if COCORAHS, coops, mesonets, and spotters get the same guidance either.  And then there's the measure only at set times sites (cue cpcantmeasuresnow).  It's mayhem.

I've gone back to resetting at phase changes or between unusual events like separate snowfalls in the morning and evening.  Just seems like common sense to me.  Otherwise, I do wipe the board at midnight (once per day).

I'm amenable to updating my methodology if someone can convincingly show that I'm not doing it correctly.

 

 

@The 4 Seasons as a result of the above I'm going with 3.2" total for yesterday. That said, ay insight you can bring to this conversation is appreciated. 

@NorthShoreWx, and anyone else with knowledge, I need a ruling here. The snow changed to sleet, I measured 3.1" at that point, and then eventually a bit of freezing drizzle before stopping around Happy Hour when I cleared my board. Then in the evening I got some back edge snow showers and I had .1 on the board this morning. I believe that I count that, which would bring storm total to 3.2". Do you agree?

12 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Not last year.

We had a white Christmas, some of us, snow on Christmas Eve and sub zero morning two days before Christmas day. NYC was 13 degrees on the 22nd and 23rd.

10 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Last year was an exception, but that torch thing has been amazingly consistent most Decembers recently.

Yeah, which means we're due for T-shirt weather this Christmas...but hey, if we can pull off more seasonal Christmas weather two years in a row then that starts a streak...(reference to the movie Major League)

14 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

@The 4 Seasons .2"on 11/11 and 3.1" today, 3.3" season total thus far. 

Anyone wondering about the specific tag in this post and may have missed it, I think many of you will enjoy the fine work here:

A back edge additional dusting of snow. 31/29

59 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

Yeah, if even that. It was funny to see cars coming down the hill from Woodstock the other day caked in snow while I was raining

I remember that from my college days at New Paltz. I’d drive up with a clear car, cars on campus were clean with no snow on the ground there there would be a few cars that rolled in covered in snow.

3.1” today melted down to .45 liquid. 3.3” snowfall for the season. 

2 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

@The 4 Seasons .2"on 11/11 and 3.1" today, 3.3" season total thus far. 

Today’s precip melted down to .45”

15 minutes ago, snywx said:

I’m a snowpack guy myself. I think we keep the grass covered for December 

As am I so from your mouth to Old Man Winters ear. 

@The 4 Seasons .2"on 11/11 and 3.1" today, 3.3" season total thus far. 

9 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

Getting into some really heavy stuff now with a couple new inches in the last hour. Roads are pretty atrocious

I got into a dry slot down here, starting to fill in again now but I can also see the back edge of the precip approaching. 

3 minutes ago, snywx said:

50/50 here now snow/sleet 

Very similar here, just measured 3.1” on the board, we’ll see how much that compacts down. 4” on the ground though so I’ll go with that LOL

4 minutes ago, snywx said:

Oo thats awfully close. Still all snow here a few mies W of Middletown

Temp up to 29

Approaching 4"

EDIT: I think im starting to hear a bit of sleet mix in. 

I have a bit of a mix now but it’s still more snow than sleet at the moment, up to 30/28.

Latest mesoscale discussion: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md2248.html

Mesoscale Discussion 2248
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   1234 PM CST Tue Dec 02 2025

   Areas affected...Southern New York into New England

   Concerning...Heavy snow 

   Valid 021834Z - 022230Z

   SUMMARY...Heavy snowfall rates between 1-2 inches per hour remain
   likely across southern New York into portions of New England this
   afternoon.

   DISCUSSION...Latest radar mosaics show the development of a snow
   band across portions of south/southeastern New York in response to
   strengthening frontogenesis between the 925-850 mb levels across the
   Mid-Atlantic/New England coast. Surface observations and web cams
   under this band are reporting visibility reductions between 1/4 to
   1/2 mile, which given weak winds across the region, are likely being
   driven primarily by moderate to heavy snowfall rates. Broad-scale
   ascent ahead of an approaching upper wave and more focused mesoscale
   ascent within the warm advection branch of an intensifying low-level
   cyclone (augmented by frontogenetical responses) will remain
   favorably phased through the remainder of the afternoon over the
   greater New England region. This will continue to favor widespread
   light/moderate precipitation and the maintenance and/or development
   of heavier precipitation bands. Consequently, snowfall rates between
   1-2 inches/hour will remain likely for areas north of the surface
   freezing line. Nearly isothermal temperature profiles from the
   surface to around 850 mb suggests that areas near the surface
   freezing line may continue to see rapid fluctuations in
   precipitation type between snow, sleet, and potentially freezing
   rain.

   ..Moore.. 12/02/2025

One of my sons works down in Chester, NY and just reported a flip to sleet there. 

2.2” on the board as of 12:30pm, up to 30/27 with light snow continuing.

A link to the mesoscale discussion for anyone who hasn’t seen it yet:https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md2247.html

53 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

If you guys want to change the laws for how state and federal funding get released, by all means run for office. Complaining here isnt going to fix the fake problem. It has literally nothing to do with whatever asshole is in office at the time. Its about $, not boy who cried wolf fake emergencies. Blame the news you choose to watch that doesnt explain that properly.

 

for the 100th time. Please for the love of god dont make it 101.

Agreed, it has nothing to do with who is in office. It’s what you stated and it allows the government to make exceptions to the law to allow things to return to normal ASAP. If the news explained it properly it would not be nearly as ‘news’ worthy and people would not find it nearly as ‘exciting’.

Various vehicle crash reports coming in around Orange County including an oil truck rollover in Warwick. Light snow, 28/25. 

First flakes right at 9am quickly turned into light snow, 29/22. 

2 hours ago, Irishmick9 said:

I need to come to this forum more often as it is a different world up here and I understand the lack of enthusiasm down there. With that being said, I need to get access to the models so I don't have to ask here but until then, are the mesos still showing the R/S line little north of Sussex Co or back down a bit? I know 1-84 is a good spot for this one but northern half of Sussex was looking great until this morning.  This will be my only IMBY type question. 

You can check out a lot for free here: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/

1 hour ago, MANDA said:

I'm on the FAR southeast edge to be involved in this forum but it is a nice place to chill....I have to say.  The main thread is like the movie Groundhog Day.  I feel like I'm reliving Winter 2024-25 all over again with the usual suspects taking their usual stance and "weenie tags" flying all over the place.

That being said my 2-4" forecast for MBY is slipping away...I'm now thinking 1" or maybe 2" if I'm lucky and this over performs.

 

You’re welcome even if you feel like you’re on the fringe. I don’t really know what to expect here as I’m right along Interstate 84 but at just under 400’. I’ve had storms go both ways here, where I flip to rain because of my elevation and other times I stay snow because I’m far enough NW. It’s always a nowcast here.