IrishRob17

Only 4.5" here about 45 minutes ago. I never went full sleet but there definitely was a change in the snow at one point, thought I'd flip to sleet but didn't and then it was full flakes again right after that. 

1 hour ago, Nibor said:

Just to their northeast it's snow so they might flip back over shortly.

Many of those areas reporting sleet flipped back to snow already, including out near Port Jervis. All snow here still. 

This discussion got buried quick in the other OBS thread so I figured I’d post it here too

Mesoscale Discussion 2276
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0541 PM CST Fri Dec 26 2025

Areas affected...Upstate NY to eastern Long Island...including parts of southern New England

Concerning...Heavy snow

Valid 262341Z - 270545Z

SUMMARY...Heavy snow bands will spread/develop southeast across upstate NY toward southern New England over the next few hours. Snow rates of 1-1.5"/hr are expected.

DISCUSSION...Low-amplitude short-wave trough is progressing southeast across western NY/PA early this evening. Latest water-vapor imagery depicts a notable midlevel vort max southwest of Syracuse, and this is reflected well in radar data. Multiple heavy snow bands have developed ahead of this vort max, strongly influenced by low-level warm advection, extending across upstate NY into the lower Hudson Valley. Boundary layer moistening supports this with dew points now rising into the mid teens (F) where snow rates are increasing. Over the next few hours snow rates are expected to increase downstream across western CT and Long Island, largely in response to this well-defined short wave digging toward the northern Middle Atlantic. Snow rates of 1-1.5"/hr can be expected prior to the short wave passage.

..Darrow.. 12/26/2025

...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

ATTN...WFO...BOX...OKX...ALY...PHI...BGM...

Mesoscale Discussion 2276
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0541 PM CST Fri Dec 26 2025

Areas affected...Upstate NY to eastern Long Island...including parts of southern New England

Concerning...Heavy snow

Valid 262341Z - 270545Z

SUMMARY...Heavy snow bands will spread/develop southeast across upstate NY toward southern New England over the next few hours. Snow rates of 1-1.5"/hr are expected.

DISCUSSION...Low-amplitude short-wave trough is progressing southeast across western NY/PA early this evening. Latest water-vapor imagery depicts a notable midlevel vort max southwest of Syracuse, and this is reflected well in radar data. Multiple heavy snow bands have developed ahead of this vort max, strongly influenced by low-level warm advection, extending across upstate NY into the lower Hudson Valley. Boundary layer moistening supports this with dew points now rising into the mid teens (F) where snow rates are increasing. Over the next few hours snow rates are expected to increase downstream across western CT and Long Island, largely in response to this well-defined short wave digging toward the northern Middle Atlantic. Snow rates of 1-1.5"/hr can be expected prior to the short wave passage.

..Darrow.. 12/26/2025

...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

ATTN...WFO...BOX...OKX...ALY...PHI...BGM...

5 minutes ago, hudsonvalley21 said:

23 with a dewpt.of 9. No flakes here yet. Let’s see what the dewpt will be when it starts.

Business picked up quickly once it starts, ground quick covered here, 21/11. 

On 12/24/2025 at 5:50 PM, IrishRob17 said:

In-laws leaving Friday morning instead of Saturday morning due to the storm...you call that a "win-win". 

Close call here, my sister in laws car wouldn’t start this morning…I jumped it and got it all warmed up. The car, not my sister in law, sickos!

6 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said:

Rob , thanks ps I hope you enjoyed as I am shot myself we went to visit a neighbor for what was supposed to be a quick 10 minute visit and it turned out to be a 3 hour continuation of more wine and laughs ,,,enjoy the snow brother I hope Mother Nature gives us a belated Christmas gift,,,,,,,to those playing along at home the NWS upped totals overnight in my area ( New City Rockland ) from 4-8 to now 5- 9 

Certainly enjoyed it, although I made a little too much merry on Christmas Eve so no holiday hammered for me yesterday but perhaps this evening

9 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said:

ok guys and gals let's do this ,,,,,,,6 pm Start time for first flakes or do you people think sooner ?

I had a house full yesterday and was busy enjoying that, did look at much model stiff or help monitor the posters coming out of the woodwork, as is tradition before a snowstorm. Anyway, I would think we will at least see some flakes before 6pm.

17 minutes ago, hudsonvalley21 said:

Relatives coming in Friday morning and gave me a Christmas present by saying that they extended their stay until January 4th. I call that a “lose-lose”   At least I can have time alone snow blowing the driveway Friday night hoping for 4-8”. We’ll see.

I had a similar situation last year with my father in law. 

Not an official white Christmas here (leas than 1" at my stake) but everyone is saying it's nice to have another white Christmas so that's all that matters. Merry Christmas one and all!

Less than 1" at my stake but still plenty of snow to see out there 29/25. Merry Christmas!

35 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

If they only beat The U, lol.

Dude, I had no issue with the U. I did with Bama but they proved themselves. Tulane and JMU...bro...they really need their own playoffs. Oh, and see you up north next year. 

36 minutes ago, Rjay said:

 

We know how to find the soundings...I think...it's the interpretation beyond the incredibly obvious. Will there be an online course or are you hosting?  

9 minutes ago, Rjay said:

Total bs

Right up there with Forky taking his shot post and disappearing and not leading the lemmings to the promised land. He's probably all tuckered out now after that post but I know I'm waiting for a some follow up. A Soundings 101 course in 2026 would be appreciated. 

In-laws leaving Friday morning instead of Saturday morning due to the storm...you call that a "win-win". 

1 hour ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

Feels like an Old Milwaukee beer commercial.  It doesn't get any better than this.

That cringe was intentional. But true.

Here's an old beer commercial and my favorite

9 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Everything north of Spuyten Duyvil is upstate, right?

Makes sense, everything south of there is the city.

5 minutes ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

Just the other day I stumbled into a thread highlighted in a twitter post, in which people were asking for advice on whether they should call the animal services, 911, etc  due to a neighbor 'leaving' their huskies out in the cold and snow.  Consistent with what you guys are saying here, the replies were along the lines of 'huskies love the cold and snow, they probably insist on staying outside'  They said that if it's cold and raining that's a different story, but if it's dry it's totally fine and the dogs love it.  My faith in humanity ticked up a bit. and I was actually pleasantly surprised to see, that the people asking about it had the sense to ask first before calling the police.

My brother had a husky when he lived upstate in lake effect country. There was no keeping that dog inside when it was cold and whiteout snows.

1 hour ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

For the college football watchers, the Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium between Penn State and Clemson is at noon Saturday.  If the storm works out as hoped, that'll be a fun game to watch, even if the snow is winding down by then.

Good catch, I had not thought of that one. I need to get my head back into the bowls, the CFP selection tainted my view a couple weeks ago... @BxEngine can relate and/or was jumping for joy I'm sure...

49 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Our whole neighborhood is doing luminaries this year. Going to be a pain if this wind keeps up

I've made ice luminaries in years past. They are awesome when the weather cooperates.  

Just now, The 4 Seasons said:

What map? The forecast for this event?

The Kuchera map

51 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

I think you'll find nearly every met in the SNE forums will tell you don't use it. 

There's a lot more to snow growth and high ratios then just temperatures. You can easily get 8-10:1 arctic sand with needles and plates with temps in the 10s and conversely you can get 15-30:1 fluff with sfc temps near freezing. 

Kuchera is always gonna be inflated really high like this when the column is very cold. 

You can use it if you want, im just saying there's a lot more to look at than pretty kuchera snowfall maps. 

You nailed that map in your posts, it's the weeniest map of them all. 

@The 4 Seasons3.2” today, season is up to 11.8”. 

1 hour ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

An interesting storm. I ended up with 3.2 inches here about half that fell in the hour and a quarter I got into the heavy band. 
 

I measured 3.2 inches at 10 o'clock. At noon it had settled and compressed and probably melted a bit down to 2.6. One last good band came through and at 1 o'clock I was back to 3.2.
 

Under old methods that would be recorded as 3.8 inches but now it's a 3.2, maximum depth at any point during the day. At least until they change the rules again.
 

Personally I preferred the clearing of the snowboard every six hours, or when precip has stopped on changed. To me that gave the most accurate measurement. 

I’m going to go with 3.2” as well, which is what the wife measured at noon.  I’m sure it was higher but I can’t verify that, melted to .23 although that includes some drizzle this afternoon. 

1 hour ago, NorthShoreWx said:

That's what I did this morning (guessed).  Max error in either direction < 0.1".  I may be a measuring wonk, but I have my limits.

I didn't put the boards out because I didn't want to disappoint the neighbors. 

The bride said there was a little over 3" when she left around noon. If others measured the liquid as well I might be able to back into a better guess when I figured out their ratios after I get my liquid total. Blah, blah, blah.