IrishRob17

No wonder here but great snowfall, .1"

Wind not too bad but just like that there's snow cover again. Moderate/heavy snow 

10 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

A trained spotter ought to know the difference.

Sleet is right above snow in the mPING app so maybe a typo I'm thinking. If they realized an error they could have submitted an updated report 30 seconds later. 

3 minutes ago, Tatamy said:

I think they meant snow.

I was wondering that, agreed 

16 minutes ago, Tatamy said:

I don’t doubt it.  Visibility’s on I84 in NE PA were in the half mile range when I checked a few minutes ago.

A trained spotter reported .3" of sleet just northwest of Wilkes-Barre. 

7 minutes ago, Tatamy said:

The echos over eastern PA are snow showers and squalls.  The echos moving along I84 look quite intense with visibility’s of 1/2 mile or less.  The brief snow shower we just had dropped visibility below 1/2 mile.  Temperature dropped from 41 to 36 as it passed.  If you are N&W of the city look out for these.

Thanks for the report. I've been tracking them all day, there were several 1/4 mile visibility reports from highway departments across PA. 

 My stake is clear but there’s still snow cover in the woods. 

8 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Thats quite the boomer phone case. Does he still look at the ETA model?

Posts on ne.weather?

4 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Knowing more than me is setting the bar rather low

I do know that putting on a coat in winter isn’t too difficult though, so I have that going for me. 

1 minute ago, forkyfork said:

two months in and the guy i'm seeing probably knows more than most of you

Knowing more than me is setting the bar rather low

2 minutes ago, Prue11 said:

I remember the 2000s-2015ish a clobbering was nothing less than 12 and was usually 18+. I’m spoiled 

Thank you for realizing that you were spoiled.  

27 minutes ago, Krs4Lfe said:

I'm still not uncanceling my winter cancel post until we reach somewhat close to seasonal/average snow totals. I'll believe it when I see it 

We? I’m still running above average at this point. 

31 minutes ago, WeatherGeek2025 said:

Dude GfS clobbers the area again next weekend with a 5-8 inches area wide

Clobbered? 5-8” is a clobbering now?! How far have we fallen…

1 hour ago, NEG NAO said:

Anyone else notice that Upton and Mt. Holly in addition to other NWS offices have a new AFD format - using "Key Messages" ??? Hope none of this is AI driven...the computerized voice on their weather radio stations is bad enough

AFD from KOKX

1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

Yeah they announced it last month I think

That’s right. 

On 12/16/2025 at 10:12 AM, IrishRob17 said:

NOUS41 KOKX 161406
PNSOKX

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service New York NY
0906 AM EST Tue Dec 16 2025

...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY TRANSITIONING TO A NEW 
FORMAT FOR THE AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION BEGINNING JAN 7 2026...

Beginning with the afternoon issuance on January 7th 2026, the 
National Weather Service New York, NY Forecast Office will 
transition to a Key Message format for the Area Forecast Discussion 
(AFDOKX).  

This strategic change aligns the Area Forecast Discussion (AFD) with 
an impacts-first message philosophy, enabling our office to 
streamline communication and reduce redundancy. This transition 
moves away from a strictly chronological layout to focus immediately 
on potential weather impacts and hazards. By prioritizing Key 
Messages, we aim to enhance clarity and eliminate duplication within 
the Area Forecast Discussion. 

A side-by-side comparison of the old format and the new format 
templates can be found at: https://www.weather.gov/erh/newAFD

The latest local AFD can be found at the following link: 
https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=okx&issuedby=OKX&product=AFD

For any questions, please contact:

Nelson Vaz 
Warning Coordination Meteorologist
National Weather Service New York NY
[email protected]

38 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

That looks like a MA blockbuster with snow to mix and dry slot NYC to BOS.  I guess I'm still a little disappointed about 1993 

And that makes sense since that looks like a DT graphic and he lives in VA last I knew. Assuming it is some other forecasters graphic it should be in the banter thread.

.5" at the stake but there's large patches of grass visible. I'm positive the stake will be 0" before the end of the day. 

Remaining above freezing overnight has done a number on the pack despite the slight glaze of ice I recorded yesterday morning. I'm betting the stake will be at a trace if not worse by tomorrow morning, it was 1.5" this morning. 

9 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

I remember that well and how devastating it was. What others forget however was how quickly the snowpack was rebuilt again and how the ground remained snow covered in some of the forum, I can only speak for myself and those of us in the north, through most of February and March. 
That was a true Thanksgiving to early April winter. 

Oh I remember but seeing the clear landscape before it built again sucked. 

9 hours ago, the_other_guy said:

I still think 93/94 was better. That epic ice storm that set the floor for a snowpack that never died. I fell more times that winter than any other.

 

Of course sandwiched between was that awful El Nino winter

I agree, 93-94 ranks higher for me than 95-96. While 95 had a deep snowpack for Christmas up here and more snow as a season, 93-94 avoided wiping out the pack. There was that storm around Martin Luther King Day that went from snow to ice to rain and near 50 for a few hours but then that arctic front of yore came raging through and froze everything solid. What a winter. 

2 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Same here, except that most of the additional area was well away from the Northeast.

I hadn't seen your follow up post when you mentioned those states outside the northeast. Tis odd to call the scale what they did then. 

4 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

If its a Northeast Snowfall Impact rating, why does the storm of January 19-21, 1978 rank higher than the famous blizzard a little over 2 weeks later:

 

The only thing that jumps out at me is that the earlier storm covered more area. 

40 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

I remember the 1/12/96 storm started as 5 minutes of snow then all rain, then big warmup and melt. But of course by Feb it came back and even into April we had significant snow events. 

https://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/1996/12-Jan-96.html

32 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe a significant warmup and heavy rains about 1 week or so later wiped out about 36" of snow cover and I think the flooding was quite notable.  ????

You are correct, a nice deep snowpack completely wiped out all over the northeast on 1/19-1/20/96. https://pubs.usgs.gov/publication/wri974252

9 hours ago, forkyfork said:

the preparation ritual just to walk out the door in winter is more annoying than being a little sweaty

Yeah, society has become increasingly lazy. Plus, putting on a jacket, perhaps a hat and gloves too, can be taxing to those not accustomed to physical activity...

Light snow in Goshen, NY