PhiEaglesfan712

The easiest compromise is to meet halfway, and make it permanently 30 minutes ahead of standard time.

With Memorial Day in the rearview mirror, it's now time to start the summer thread.

We have a developing strong/super el nino. Such summers are known for producing cooler than normal summers in the Eastern US. Such years include 1972, 1982, 1986, 1997, 2009, and 2023.

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

Memorial Days in NYC

 

 

Year	Memorial Day Date	High	Low	Rain
2025	May 26	74	53	0.00"
2024	May 27	75	67	0.82"
2023	May 29	80	58	0.00"
2022	May 30	85	64	0.00"
2021	May 31	72	50	0.00"
2020	May 25	73	56	0.00"
2019	May 27	82	65	0.00"
2018	May 28	70	57	0.00"
2017	May 29	62	56	0.09"
2016	May 30	84	69	1.41"
2015	May 25	87	65	0.00"
2014	May 26	88	67	0.00"
2013	May 27	75	52	0.00"
2012	May 28	91	72	0.00"
2011	May 30	87	71	0.23"
2010	May 31	88	69	0.00"
2009	May 25	82	63	0.00"
2008	May 26	81	59	0.00"
2007	May 28	84	68	Trace
2006	May 29	89	67	0.00"
2005	May 30	76	58	Trace
2004	May 31	66	58	0.18"
2003	May 26	58	52	1.11"
2002	May 27	78	60	0.00"
2001	May 28	73	57	0.04"

Can you expand these to 3 days (Saturday, Sunday, and Monday), so I can see the whole picture for the entire Memorial Day weekends? For example, 2021 at 72 and 0.00 rain looks misleading because you had highs in the 50s (probably record low maxes) and a lot of rain on Saturday and Sunday.

1 hour ago, Albedoman said:

 

This cold weather is unbearable. Coldest Memorial day I can ever remember.  I have the space heater running  in my office as solar raditonal heat cannot recover  the temps in the house the next 3 days. Still wearing sweatshirts after this last heatwave.  Wll , the landscaping mowing businesses will be loving this weather after the hoilday as they will be mowing everything that grew  a foot high  this weekend.

You must either have the shortest memory ever or you are purposely trying to manipulate things. I love how you just disappear during a heatwave, when the weather doesn't support your agenda. I didn't see you post in early March when it was in the 80s, or in mid-April when it was in the 90s either.

Anyways, you only have to go back 5 years to find a colder Memorial Day weekend (I remember this because I got my first COVID shot that Saturday, and man that was a very miserable weekend):

10 hours ago, MANDA said:

Thanks for the stats! 

So a small one site sample shows:

- 40 years since the last monthly record low.

- 92 years since a monthly record low during meteorological winter.

Since 1998 5 monthly record warm readings but none of those during meteorological summer all were during meteorological winter.  Of course NYC temperatures during the summer are skewed low since equipment was moved from out in the open to the middle of a thicket.

Hard to envision a monthly record low in NYC until the next climate shift to cooler occurs from whatever the cause of that may be.  Volcanic?  Next natural climate shift?  Something more drastic?

Yeah, the fact that no monthly record low was set in the post-Pinatubo years (1992-1996) makes me believe it's never going to happen again. Global temperatures have jumped so much in the last 30 years.

Big Temperature swings this spring

Saturday's high projected to be only in the 50s.

On 5/19/2026 at 2:09 PM, GaWx said:

In mid May vs 2026:

-2023 was more E based

-2015 was similar

-1997 was more E based

-1991 and 1982 were more W based

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/rel_wksst9120.txt

1982 wasn't W based. That one topped out at +4.6 on Nino 1+2, which is even higher than 1997 (4.1). If anything, 1982 should be E based.

82-83 peaks

Nino 1+2: 4.6        

Nino 3: 2.9

Nino 3.4: 2.9

Nino 4: 1.3

97-98 peaks

Nino 1+2: 4.1

Nino 3: 3.3

Nino 3.4: 2.2

Nino 4: 1.1

9 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

yeah, I'm gonna sell on 102/78 at FW6927 Greenville, RI

Is that an all-time record high for the station?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot Providence's earliest 100-degree day was set last year (June 24). 98 was the previous record prior to 6/30 (set in the April 1976 heat wave).

44 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

It has happened before.  Highest temp in May (maybe even April for someone on here one year?)

Yeah, 1976 was the year when the highest temp was hit in April, during the Easter heatwave, for many spots in New England, and as far south as Philly. Things turned cold very early that season, with October 1976-January 1977 being the coldest October-January on record. (The spring that followed was one of the warmest on record, despite a snow event on May 9-10.)

39 minutes ago, LakePaste25 said:

Just recorded our 2nd earliest 90+ degree day on record at ERI. The earliest was 5/16/1991. Definitely not typical for a pre Nino May.

Oddly enough, 1991 was a pre-nino May (although there would be the major volcano the following month that made sure the nino event behaved weirdly).

1 hour ago, LVblizzard said:

About to land in Philly after spending a week in Ireland with mid 50s and a strong breeze. Adjusting to this heat won’t be fun.

You'll be back to mid-50s weather by Saturday. It's been that type of spring.

43 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Yea, this is why I don't think the Modoki is really going to matter.

09-10 showed that we can get a good winter out of a strong modoki el nino. We just need a good blocking pattern.

2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Once we get to June its pretty rare to have highs below 70

I expected the temperature swings to be done by now. I haven't seen a spring as bipolar as this one (I wonder if it's due to there being a really cold winter and the ocean temps are cold), and I'm starting to worry it will bleed into summer. We've had 80 degree days followed by 30 degree ones, 90 degree days followed by 40 degree ones, and now 95 degree days followed by 50 degree ones.

5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Good lord

I hope this isn't a preview of summer. I'm just tired of these wild temperature swings. I'd much rather have it be one consistent temperature, whether it be the 90s, 80s, or heck, even 70s. But I can't do it if we're going to have runs in the 100s this summer, only to be followed by temps in the 50s soon thereafter.

2 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Right....2018-2019 was la Nino, as well. It's honestly been over a decade since we've had a true El Nino, and the RONI even lagged in that one.

Yeah, that 2018-20 period was a disjointed at best. We didn't really have a definitive ENSO or PDO state during those years (the PDO was near neutral for the greater part of almost 4 years after the mid-2010s el nino dissipated), until we got to 2020-21, which was a solid la nina and -PDO.

I know spring is prone to temperature swings, but I don't think there has ever been a more bipolar spring than this one. I hope this doesn't continue into the summer. Imagine it being 100+ degrees one day in July, and then only in the 50s at the same time the next day. I can't do that!

Fun fact: Providence's highest temperature ever recorded in April is higher than its highest temperature ever recorded in May. In fact, it took until last year (when it reached 100 on June 24) for Providence to record a June temperature that was higher than its April 1976 record high.

Not only has a mid-May freeze happened before, there was one just three years ago:

2 hours ago, dendrite said:

Euro is pushing 100° in Philly for a couple of days next week.

As long as it's not 50 degrees in the daytime soon thereafter, I'll be okay with this.

1 hour ago, The Iceman said:

Low of 40 here, shaping up to be a beautiful afternoon though. Already 64F. Enjoy the comfort this week and dust out the AC vents as it is looking like we go straight into summer next week. 

This has to be the most bipolar spring ever, in terms of temperature. I've never seen so many temperature swings in my lifetime. We've seen it go from 30s to 80s and back, 40s to 90s and back, etc. I don't mind temps in the 70s, 60s, or even 50s, as long as it's consistent. I just don't like the 40-50 degree swings we've been getting this year.

5 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Ridging building in 5.17 - beyond next shot at 90s  5/17 - 5/24 - beyond

 

If we get a 90-degree day in May, this spring would be the first ever to get an 80 in March, and a 90 in both April and May, correct?

14 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

Today’s Boston Globe has a good article about the May 1977 snowstorm.  
 

here’s the link, but I’m pretty sure it’s probably paywalled:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/05/09/metro/mothers-day-snow-storm-1977-ma/

Oh what could have been if winter didn't disappear and March and April in 1977. It was already a big snow year as it was, but it could have been even bigger if March and April didn't absolutely torch.

More recently, there was a snow on May 9, 2020 (as well as a freeze on May 18, 2023). Those events happened after very warm and low snow winters.