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  1. 7 minutes ago, Evie3 said:

    There are exceptions to that reasoning, the most extreme one that came to mind was the blizzard of 1888.  It was unseasonably mild and raining just before that event.

    I checked the climate summary, and it looks like it was very cold leading up to the March 1888 snowstorm:

    1888-03-01 40 28 34.0 -4.8 31 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-02 33 27 30.0 -9.0 35 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-03 37 15 26.0 -13.2 39 0 0.05 0.0 M
    1888-03-04 24 12 18.0 -21.5 47 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-05 22 12 17.0 -22.7 48 0 0.01 0.3 M
    1888-03-06 23 10 16.5 -23.5 48 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-07 30 17 23.5 -16.7 41 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-08 31 21 26.0 -14.5 39 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-09 40 23 31.5 -9.2 33 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-10 45 27 36.0 -5.0 29 0 0.00 0.0 M
    1888-03-11 42 33 37.5 -3.7 27 0 0.65 0.0 M
    1888-03-12 33 8 20.5 -21.0 44 0 1.45 16.5 10
    1888-03-13 12 6 9.0 -32.8 56 0 0.00 3.0 M

     

  2. 14 minutes ago, dendrite said:

    Skyrockets in flight this morning with Ditty and ORH well into the 40s.

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    Got down to 32 in this morning:

    09 06:56 E 3 10.00 Fair CLR 33.1 28.9     85%     29.94 1014.0      
    09 05:56 SE 6 10.00 Fair CLR 32 30     92% 27   29.92 1013.5      
    09 04:56 SE 5 10.00 Fair CLR 32 28.9     88% 28   29.92 1013.1      
    09 03:56 SE 6 10.00 Fair CLR 33.1 28.9     85% 28   29.92 1013.1      
    09 02:56 SE 3 10.00 Fair CLR 32 28     85%     29.92 1013.2

    I'm headed back home for some afternoon delight with temps in the 70s.

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  3. 5 hours ago, NEG NAO said:

    This potential is reminding me of this March storm

    Snow storm, March 18, 1994 - Storm Summary

    This is the Central Park in March 1994 leading up to the event:

    1994-03-01 38 24 31.0 -7.8 34 0 0.00 0.0 2
    1994-03-02 30 26 28.0 -11.0 37 0 0.40 4.0 2
    1994-03-03 35 27 31.0 -8.2 34 0 0.62 1.0 7
    1994-03-04 48 30 39.0 -0.5 26 0 0.00 0.0 7
    1994-03-05 45 34 39.5 -0.2 25 0 0.00 0.0 5
    1994-03-06 42 30 36.0 -4.0 29 0 T T 4
    1994-03-07 50 33 41.5 1.3 23 0 0.00 0.0 4
    1994-03-08 48 35 41.5 1.0 23 0 0.12 0.0 1
    1994-03-09 36 30 33.0 -7.7 32 0 0.29 T T
    1994-03-10 46 32 39.0 -2.0 26 0 1.62 0.0 T
    1994-03-11 47 31 39.0 -2.2 26 0 0.00 0.0 T
    1994-03-12 46 26 36.0 -5.5 29 0 0.00 0.0 T
    1994-03-13 52 33 42.5 0.7 22 0 T 0.0 T
    1994-03-14 54 41 47.5 5.4 17 0 0.00 0.0 T
    1994-03-15 55 41 48.0 5.7 17 0 0.11 0.0 T
    1994-03-16 45 24 34.5 -8.1 30 0 T T 0
    1994-03-17 37 21 29.0 -13.9 36 0 0.02 0.3 T
    1994-03-18 33 25 29.0 -14.2 36 0 0.26 2.8 0

    Highs were in the 30s, 40s, and 50s in the lead-up to the snowstorm. That is nothing like we have this year. Highs are going to be in the 70s the next few days. Unless you live in New England, you are not getting a snowstorm from here on out. The ground is just too warm and the sun angle is too high.

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  4. 32 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

    Dont you live in Philadelphia? How do you make these declarative statements for a region you're not even part of. 

    Closer to the Philly are, but whether it be NYC or PHL, most of the snowstorms that happened after March 15 are in the middle or or immediately following a very cold period. Just look at 1956, 1958, or 2018, for example. This is not the case this year. Most of the area had 70+ highs today. That's not the weather that preceeds a 2nd half of March snowstorm.

    This isn't the New England region, where the sun angle as weaker and snow is a more common occurrence after March 15.

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  5. There's a difference between chilly and snowstorm. Temps in the 40s, probably. But if you're holding out hope for snow, it's probably not going to happen. Almost always, snow after March 15 is accompanied by cold before it. We don't have that now.

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  6. A wild ride here in temperatures. Still very warm:

    08 07:56 Vrbl 7 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW015 SCT042 BKN080 53.1 48.9 54 43 86%     29.64 1003.4      
    08 06:56 SW 8 G 17 10.00 Overcast SCT015 BKN023 OVC060 54 51.1     90%     29.63 1003.2      
    08 05:56 Vrbl 3 10.00 Overcast OVC015 53.1 51.1     93%     29.63 1002.9      
    08 04:56 Vrbl 7 G 21 10.00 Overcast OVC017 53.1 50     89%     29.63 1002.9
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  7. 3 hours ago, The Iceman said:

    You realize that’s perfectly possible with a back door cold front right? ENE wind off the ocean. Somehow I doubt Vermont is seeing a heavy marine influence 

    Vermont is more influenced by the mountains. But there has a been a wild temperature swing the last 12-18 hours. From 58 to 40 and now back up to 54 at 7 am. Still well above average for this time of year at that latitude, and quite a contrast from negative temperatures following the late January snowstorm.

  8. If you're still holding out hope for a snow event, it's time to let go. The only people in the Eastern US that may see a wintry precipitation event going forward is in Northern New England, I'm not even sure they will get one.

  9. Mid-50s in Vermont:

    07 15:56 N 3 10.00 Fair CLR 54 43     67%     29.8 1009.1      
    07 14:56 Calm 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT046 SCT095 55.9 44.1     65%     29.84 1010.2      
    07 13:56 N 3 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW055 BKN110 54 42.1     64%     29.88 1011.7      

    I'm here until Monday morning.

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  10. 4 hours ago, Chadzachadam said:

    Winter holding on for dear life. Still haven’t made it out of the 40s this week…maybe this evening

    If that's true, then it's warmer where I am in Vermont. I'm seeing mid-50s:

    07 15:56 N 3 10.00 Fair CLR 54 43     67%     29.8 1009.1      
    07 14:56 Calm 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT046 SCT095 55.9 44.1     65%     29.84 1010.2      
    07 13:56 N 3 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW055 BKN110 54 42.1     64%     29.88 1011.7      
  11. 10 hours ago, Mikeymac5306 said:

    You need to have quite a few things come together for a solid March snow. Not saying it can't happen, but more elements need to be in place. 

    I remember a few solid April snows one not too long ago. 

    Yeah, you need a lot of cold air in place. In the years when we had big snowstorms post-March 15 (1956, 1958, 2018, etc.) there were many days with below average temperatures (mostly in the 40s and even 30s, as well as at least one snow event) leading up to it:

    1956-03-06 47 38 42.5 2.1 22 0 0.06 0.0 0
    1956-03-07 51 38 44.5 3.8 20 0 0.13 0.0 0
    1956-03-08 45 31 38.0 -3.0 27 0 0.50 T 0
    1956-03-09 49 30 39.5 -1.8 25 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1956-03-10 56 34 45.0 3.4 20 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1956-03-11 59 40 49.5 7.6 15 0 0.06 0.0 0
    1956-03-12 48 33 40.5 -1.7 24 0 0.09 T 0
    1956-03-13 38 32 35.0 -7.5 30 0 0.09 0.7 T
    1956-03-14 48 37 42.5 -0.3 22 0 1.56 0.0 0
    1956-03-15 42 34 38.0 -5.1 27 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1956-03-16 36 26 31.0 -12.4 34 0 0.73 1.3 T
    1956-03-17 33 23 28.0 -15.7 37 0 T T 1
    1956-03-18 30 25 27.5 -16.5 37 0 0.56 5.4 0
    1956-03-19 30 23 26.5 -17.8 38 0 0.35 3.3 7

     

    1958-03-01 46 39 42.5 3.4 22 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-02 53 34 43.5 4.1 21 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-03 49 38 43.5 3.9 21 0 0.17 0.0 0
    1958-03-04 46 34 40.0 0.1 25 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-05 47 34 40.5 0.3 24 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-06 50 30 40.0 -0.4 25 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-07 49 35 42.0 1.3 23 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-08 46 31 38.5 -2.5 26 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-09 40 28 34.0 -7.3 31 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-10 53 34 43.5 1.9 21 0 T T 0
    1958-03-11 54 31 42.5 0.6 22 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-12 45 35 40.0 -2.2 25 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-13 42 29 35.5 -7.0 29 0 0.39 1.4 1
    1958-03-14 39 32 35.5 -7.3 29 0 0.66 0.6 2
    1958-03-15 44 36 40.0 -3.1 25 0 0.00 0.0 T
    1958-03-16 42 33 37.5 -5.9 27 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-17 44 31 37.5 -6.2 27 0 0.00 0.0 0
    1958-03-18 48 31 39.5 -4.5 25 0 T 0.0 0
    1958-03-19 38 33 35.5 -8.8 29 0 0.81 1.4 0
    1958-03-20 35 32 33.5 -11.2 31 0 1.76 9.6 4

     

    2018-03-02 45 32 38.5 -0.9 26 0 0.86 1.5 0
    2018-03-03 46 35 40.5 0.9 24 0 T T 1
    2018-03-04 48 31 39.5 -0.4 25 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2018-03-05 47 30 38.5 -1.7 26 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2018-03-06 48 29 38.5 -1.9 26 0 0.23 0.1 0
    2018-03-07 36 32 34.0 -6.7 31 0 1.28 6.0 T
    2018-03-08 40 31 35.5 -5.5 29 0 0.00 0.0 4
    2018-03-09 42 30 36.0 -5.3 29 0 0.00 0.0 3
    2018-03-10 44 29 36.5 -5.1 28 0 0.00 0.0 2
    2018-03-11 46 28 37.0 -4.9 28 0 0.00 0.0 1
    2018-03-12 43 29 36.0 -6.2 29 0 0.06 T 0
    2018-03-13 42 32 37.0 -5.5 28 0 0.03 T T
    2018-03-14 41 29 35.0 -7.8 30 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2018-03-15 46 32 39.0 -4.1 26 0 T 0.0 0
    2018-03-16 42 31 36.5 -6.9 28 0 T T 0
    2018-03-17 48 28 38.0 -5.7 27 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2018-03-18 50 31 40.5 -3.5 24 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2018-03-19 52 33 42.5 -1.8 22 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2018-03-20 35 29 32.0 -12.7 33 0 0.40 0.9 0
    2018-03-21 36 31 33.5 -11.5 31 0 1.06 6.7 1

     

    We just don't have that coming up this year. We have temps forecasted in the 60s and 70s. I have a feeling anyone holding out hope for more snow is going to end up disappointed.

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  12. 2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

    Are you related to snowman19? You have been wrong on everything this winter. 

    No, but anyone with common sense knows that there won't be 2 snow events post-March 10. That's only happened once ever (in 2018), and temperatures had cooled long before that. We won't get 2 snow events after this warmup.

    Besides, I haven't been wrong on everything this winter. I did say December would be below average temperaturewise, and I called this March warmup at least a month in advance.

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  13. 5 hours ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said:

    All the roll-forward stuff from the Winter was suggesting March would be near normal to below in the eastern 1/3 of the US.. seems to be beating the Euro weeklies in the long range

    With the upcoming warmup, March is almost certainly going to end up above average in the Eastern 1/3 of the US. The only way we get a below average temperature departure is if we have something like this:

    2011-03-23 40 32 36.0 -8.8 29 0 0.87 T 0
    2011-03-24 44 30 37.0 -8.2 28 0 0.09 1.0 1
    2011-03-25 42 28 35.0 -10.5 30 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2011-03-26 40 26 33.0 -12.9 32 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2011-03-27 45 28 36.5 -9.7 28 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2011-03-28 45 26 35.5 -11.1 29 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2011-03-29 49 31 40.0 -6.9 25 0 0.00 0.0 0
    2011-03-30 53 36 44.5 -2.8 20 0 0.01 0.0 0
    2011-03-31 43 37 40.0 -7.7 25 0 0.13 T 0

     

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  14. 1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

    The problem is the PV is on our side of the world so it wouldn't take much for cold air to seep south. 

    March is very fickle. We could touch 80+ and see snow a week later. We actually did that in 2018 when Feb saw 80 and then we know what happened next. 

    I'm not saying we're getting snowstorms but the window hasn't completely closed. 

    The difference is that in 2018, as well as in 2017, we had record warm Februarys. It shouldn't be surprising that things corrected, and we got snowy Marches those years.

    That's nothing like what we have this year. We had a cold and snowy February (and winter overall), like 2010. Things corrected in the opposite direction, and we got a warm March and the below average temperatures never came back (until the following winter). I feel like we closer to this scenario than 2017 and 2018.

  15. 2 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

    Man 2012 is close to knocking on our door. Too bad. 

    I'm thinking more like 2010. 2012 came off a wall-to-wall warm and snowless winter. 2010 came off a more cold and snowy winter, but flipped warm once the calendar flipped to March, and never really looked back.

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  16. 1 hour ago, bluewave said:

    So in this much warmer world it was a challenge for places to have an all-time winter for both snow and cold. There was definitely a colder global temperature sweet spot from 1993-1994 to 2014-2015. This allowed for the all-time snowiest winter in PA during 1993-1994, our area in 1995-1996, DC to Philly in 2009-2010, Detroit and the Great Lakes in 2013-2014, and Boston in 2014-2015. None of these benchmarks were able to be approached this winter with the smaller footprint of the cold.

    The colder global temperature sweet spot ended with the 1997-98 el nino. Temperatures jumped with that super el nino, and have never went back to the pre-1997 baseline. Pinatubo was most likely the reason for the colder global temperature sweet spot.

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