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7 minutes ago, danstorm said:

I can speak firsthand that it's a miserable place for snow.  Quintessential nickle and dime.

There is literally snow in the air for weeks at a time (the dying lakes squalls that get squeezed out over the big ridge to the west) that never accumulates.

Too far east for Lake Effect and often too far west for the coastal lows.   They need an inland runner to cash in.

2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

They have around 21" So about 50% of normal

surprised 40 inches is their average....would think less given what I stated above.

2 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Compete nightmare out there the last decade!! JM would know best but I think they had over 100" in 93/94 

I believe JB said at one point that they have not jackpotted in a storm since then

36 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Must be out there in state college for him. I wonder what their ytd snowfall is 

Can't be more than 10 or 12 inches.  I think they did ok in the 2/9 event but that's about it.

Watching JB's video today was like watching a funeral procession.

3 hours ago, Rtd208 said:

DT says winter is basically over in his This Week in Weather video. He mentions maybe..maybe some winter weather in mid to late March if the mjo swings around into a more favorable position again but honestly by then who cares. I am really not a big fan of any wintry weather after the first ten days of March unless it is an extreme event i.e Superstorm of 93 or if we have a very cold air mass in place.

Yep another early end to winter.   Seems like 2/15 has been the date of the last big snows for a few years.    Big warmth in middle of the country-hard to see how we don't get warm at some point in the next week or so.    Tough winter, the cold could never hit and hold.  The loss of the warm blob of water in the Pacific was a big deal along withe the AO and NAO staying positive much of the winter.   

On 10/31/2016 at 0:44 AM, Rtd208 said:

Larry Cosgrove released his outlook for winter 2016-2017 and its not good if you like cold and snow although confidence levels are not particularly high. He is also going with a very warm December which seems to contradict most outlooks.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-US#!topic/weatheramerica/PeySp4BFjEA

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-US#!topic/weatheramerica/bBiWzmLaLSA

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-US#!topic/weatheramerica/gbv3LItS4Yo

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-US#!topic/weatheramerica/udrthzDZ-Dw

 

he's pretty much nailed it for the east so far.   Too dry and warm in the west however.

18 minutes ago, Rtd208 said:

According to Steve D. "the pattern should remain active and on the cold side until mid February then Spring is on the way". The way this winter has gone and how the models have handled things even in the shorter ranges I am taking everything with a grain of salt. I will laugh if we wind up seeing our biggest snowfall of the winter on March 1st.

we'll get a 10 day window most likely given the seasonal trend.  Most temperature forecasts are going in the trash bin this winter.   I think LC had a warm winter, but most of them I saw were cold and snowy.   

18 hours ago, Morris said:

People pay for the maps. Not JB. Me included.

Depends.  I like the whole package.   Joe D'Aleo is a good read.  JB is always a good read too but you have to keep his bias's in mind.   He'll always look for the extreme solution and try to find the cold pattern.      

21 minutes ago, PB GFI said:

Always fascinated when people pay to see a forecaster just to chide him . 

 

 

 

Gimme a break.  All forecasters have their biases.  If you can't see that JB always looks for the cold in the pattern and goes for the big storm, then I don't know what to tell you.

7 minutes ago, NEG NAO said:

JB in his public  daily summary says UKMET will verify phasing will occur = East Coast Blizzard This Weekend

 

http://www.weatherbell.com/premium

oh Christ....that's our JB, always swinging for the fences!  

JB has hermine blowing up off the NC coast to a Cat 2 borderline 3 cane and then coming north to a point SE of of the eastern tip of LI.

Why aren't the fireworks near Battery Park instead of the East River where you have so many more obsticales?

more people can view them further north.    plus for TV purposes you have the skyline as the background

Chamber of commerce weather this upcoming weekend...

Even in coastal CT we did ok. I lived in Norwalk at the time and received 6. I think Bridgeport only reported 2 but they typically under report by 25 percent on all storms for some reason.

Our snow came at the end from what I remember as the storm pulled away and colder air worked in.   Most of it was a driving rainstorm with temps in the mid to upper 30's with ferocious winds.

I never needed to pay a toll really given the roads I use.

Makes sense then...we take occasional trips to Boston area and Philly area and it's a godsend.  Especially during peak travel times, July-Aug, Xmas etc

Mass Pike still has the ticket so does Maine Turnpike

sure they do (for now), but only about 20% of folks use them, most have EZ pass now and sail through without picking up a ticket or fumbling for bills/coins on the other end.

I just switched to EZ pass lol.

Got sick of waiting 30 minutes to pay a toll in high peak times?   I got it when it first came out-shortened my trips to Philly by a good 20-30 minutes.

What amazes me is the change in technology since then.  Here we were driving around and only had a scanner and AM radio to know what was happening.  I remember stopping at a phone booth and calling a colleague to get some info which is why we decided to go to the coast.  The video doesn't do that justice because of the focus and the fact that the tide had started to go out by the time that we got there but I had never seen such a caldron before or since.

 

I kind of chuckled at the comment I made saying I had never seen anything like it but you have to remember that since my birth I had never seen a 2' snow storm and since it all happened in less than 24 hours the impact was even more impressive.  I've seen several storms since then and that storm seem to be a game changer as there was winters before that and winters after that in terms of storms.

I chuckled at the part where the driver takes a ticket from the tollbooth.   Those days are long gone for most folks with electronic tolling now commonplace.

crazy storm.  Was all rain here til the very end where we got a few inches of snow as it pulled away.  Very destructive and most destructive event here til Irene and Sandy

Man OKX is getting slaughtered on social media. ALY is having just as big a busy but luckily not many care about that area haha.

Going to be an ugly go of it for forecasters from Philly to even here.  About 8 inches here guestimating but major major bust...NWS was going 20-30 last evening.  Euro/NAM FTL-for once it didnt work out.  On the plus side, kids go back to school tomorrow.

you know it's an epic storm when the discussed "rip off zones" still get 15-20

I would like the rgem to be on board with euro. That would seal it.

Blend them for us IMO

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any word on the SREF's for SW CT-drier/wetter/same

wx bell maps show snow totals of low's 20's for the max in W CT and low 30's in SE MA

Yeah it's not normal to see this on a 24 hour forecast...esp with good models like the RGEM. I can understand the GFS being junk in these large storms because it usually is, but seeing other guidance further east is a head scratcher.

 

Euro did tick east just a shade though this run...so we'll see how we look over the next 12 hours.

will be interesting to see if the 18z runs shift closer to Euro...even some.

Bonkers.

that's 30 inches for us?  I still can't grasp that.  Even 20 would be amazing.

is anyone concerned that it still corrected somewhat northeast and that the trend may continue?not to be a Debbie Downer it looks like an absolutely beautiful run I just want to make sure it can hold.

running out of time for that, storm gets underway within 12 hrs.