Witness Protection Program

What's the best comparison hurricane for Mike? (Other than the obvious Sandy, pre-Sandy, post-Sandy, Sandy V, and Sandy.) Was this as tight as Charley for the truly brutal winds? That was my first impression, but I haven't got the chance to read through the threads and am basically a hurricane idiot.

If I were OCD, I'd be pissed at how The (phony) Weather Channel illustrates storm surge with a typical suburban house theoretically sitting at 0' elevation, which exists exactly nowhere. No wave action battering it as the surge rises, but cute fishes calmly swimming below. I mean I get that they are oversimplifying for the Idiocracy lowest common denominator, but still. Is Reynolds Wolf even capable of shame? (Not my favorite channel...)

Plenty of fish in the sea (if not your tank.)

It's a tropical thread, snowflakes.

So I guess this is where I make my unscientific call for Florence? Hendersonville. A bunch of flooding in the Smokies.

New MD: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1113.html And Severe Watch replaces the Tor Watches: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0297.html

You get any damage? That line that just crossed US27 looks pretty nasty, too.

Starting to pop up from Hendersonville and the Cumberland River.

The stuff dive bombing Arkansas from MO/KS is flying.

Edit: Nevermind, radar false alarm Of course on the one week I can't park in my garage because of construction. How big is the Nashville hail risk for the 1am-6am rounds?

I hear the damage is grizzly.

An 80-miles long wall of tornadoes, eh? Is that the biggest single tor warn ever?

A minor nitpick: Sometimes the Nashville office has an annoying practice of refusing to update their forecast page to add a chance of rain once showers or even storms pop up they hadn't predicted. I went to bed last night as scattered popcorns had developed and in KY and were crossing SE into TN west of Clarksville (where the border jumps north along the Tenn River). Yet the rain chances stayed 20% in KY and 0% a mile away in TN, nothing mentioned in the discussion, either. Seemed likely they would continue for a while since they were slowly growing in coverage. Sure enough I awoke in the middle of the night to rain here in Nashville, and when I got up there was a line of scattered rain to our Southeast, another to our northwest that will get here mid-morning, and a few more popcorns in between. Yet nothing changed on the webpage, still "Mostly sunny, 20% after 1pm." So is it just laziness or is pride the reason they never updated to add in a 20% or 10%? I've noticed this several times before, seems to be a pattern for some regional offices, while others are much better at updating. This time it occurred across 2 shifts, so not just an individual issue. It's not the end of the world, but it is a little thing that people notice and can reinforce the false stereotype that forecasters are often wrong. (The truth being that it is amazing how accurate weather forecasting has become in my lifetime.)

PDS south of I-840.

aka Maria

Good to find this subforum a few hours before I die in a tornado. Nashville, here. Never was sure if I was supposed to post in the Southeast or Ohio Valley subforums.

For those wanting to see 'before' pictures, that's the Fastrip at 3950 E 20th St, Joplin, MO 64801-5851 (SW corner of 20th and Duquesne). Google Streetview and Bing Bird's Eye View both cover that area.

According to an article yesterday, that is exactly what happened to 7 people killed at the Home Depot.

Based on that video, my guess is that JoMo's house survived intact. (Edited to remove street names. )

Adding $5-13,000 to the cost of every new home (probably more once it becomes gov't mandated), pricing a whole lot more people and families out of these houses and stuck in mobile homes and flimsy apartments. Brilliant way to increase deaths in the 99% of tornadoes that aren't EF5. How about we let each person make their own decisions.

Go to Bing Maps' 'Bird's Eye View' to see excellent 'before' views of what was damaged/destroyed. Some reference points: Video starts facing east at 35th and Exchange Ave (road next to RR tracks) :37 - Road crossing the freeway is 31st st 1:00 - Roseland Courts public housing, looks to be about 40% destroyed. 2:30 - 15th St and 5th Ave 2:50 - McFarland Blvd just south of 13th St, the Hobby Lobby strip center where a lot of the evening video was shot of people walking up and down McFarland past the rubble. Offscreen to the right of this video but easily seen in Bird's Eye View is the mall parking lot where that kid got the dramatic tornado vid: SE corner of McFarland and 15th, he starts facing west across McFarland, ends facing north across 15th, then heading east. 3:30 - Slabs were industrial buildings between the RR tracks south of University and Kicker. 3:50 - Church at University and 22nd. 4:33 - 4th St between 30th and 31st Ave. 5:05 - Trailer park west of Crescent Ln at 1st. 5:55 - Elm Dr at 44th Ct.

Thanks for posting. For the before images, enter "Rosedale Courts, Tuscaloosa, AL" on google maps. Was a single-story brick public housing complex on the west side of 10th ave at 27th st.

Good video of 4 MS/AL tornadoes from some chasers: May want to mute it, lots of screaming dork throughout.

Already the 3rd worst in the last 50 years and 9th worst in the last 100. According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know): 1974 - 317+ deaths 1965 - 256+ 1953 - 247+ 1936 - 454+ 1932 - 330+ 1925 - 747+ 1920 - 243+ and 280+

Then the live feed over Spaulding Co. GA tseems to suggest at least EF3 in spots, from what my amateur eyes can tell. Definitely the tree damage, though not necessarily in a wide swath or continuous. Some bare concrete slabs, with the adjacent homes suggesting those were either traditional wood-frame or perhaps pre-fab (not trailers.) Also wood-framed houses reduced to rubble with piles of lumber and siding blown across the road.