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Not principles of the man, principles the policies are based on. This is what gets lost in all the media frenzy - so focused on the people.

70 million didn't just (or only) vote for a man, they voted for principles & policies and against other policies.

Yes. All the naysayers about 'Trump's' vaccine rush can be more at ease as buku $$ is what was needed to make this successful, quickly. This pandemic will have many silver linings and one of them is a jump forward in vaccine development - with inevitable spill over to other diseases. Goes to show you people can really accomplish great things when working together.

Wisconsin is about 20k as well, recount warranted with such a close race? I know 2016 WI and MI had very small gaps, but even if those went to Clinton, it still wouldn't have mattered.

The Arizona gap is shrinking as well. Now about 69k with 350k left (was 79k last night). The thought is that the remaining "mail in votes" are actually voting day drop-offs which have been leaning more for Trump. If they are 60/40, that would make up the gap. I think Arizona is still in play and called too early.

Sounds like there needs to be a national voting standard that all states must follow. All these state-led rules/laws around national elections is confusing, inefficient, prone for error, and poor optics in tight races. Florida did it the best, it seems.

Maybe if you sign, send in, but don't mark anything?

The question I have is: Are they basing values on all of the absentee ballots they sent out or actually received and not counted yet? I'm sure there's more sent than received back. The Dep AG in Penn said there were 1.4M outstanding mail-ins...is that # how many were sent out or received? Also, it would be nice to know how many people double-voted - I'm sure that's happening (to some extent) as well.

Go figure. Greater % of Latino vote for Trump than in 2016 as well. Interesting.

The weather across most of the country is very nice so that will definitely encourage people to vote today. I would imagine if there was a big storm ripping through, the turnout would be significantly lower.

Being a plumber he's probably come across the majority of viruses and bacteria on the planet...LOL. Likely immune to all of them!! Good for him.

Is he generally healthy (no pre-existing conditions)? Just curious.

This is encouraging to see. It will be interesting to see how this progresses over the next month or so to include all the new cases. If excess deaths hold steady - that would be really encouraging - and with a vaccine on the way for EUA next month, our most vulnerable populations can start to breath a sigh of relief. Any data for Europe as well?

Lol, I kinda am too (I still wipe down my groceries with an alcohol wipe) and don't mean to introduce fear!! I just wish people would consider what they are touching - even in a 'normal' year. Yes, the rest of the world is gross...haha.

Yet how many people are cleaning their hands after eating in a restaurant and then touching the door handle on the way out? What about before and after they hand their credit card to the server at the drive-though? Remember, only thousands of C19 viruses are needed to infect, yet tens of millions can be on small surfaces and survive for days - especially hard, smooth surfaces (e.g., credit cards and door handles). It's really just logic.

I just think high-touch surfaces are underestimated and ill-considered - especially in light of that bolded statement.

Do you really believe not a single case of C19 has been spread by contaminated surfaces? That just doesn't make any logical sense unless the virus dies on surfaces in minutes - which as been proven false. If that's the case, why wear gloves, clean surfaces, wash hands, or anything else if it's a non-issue ? Weird. Surfaces are not the primary transmission track, but they aren't zero either - and I think underestimated.

Interesting, but I don't think people consider frequent touch spots like door handles, credit cards, menus, bathroom faucets, etc. Almost everyone in a house, building, restaurant, touch the door handle to get it. What about credit cards? Just went to Dunkin this morning and the server, with gloves on, is handed credit cards ALL day. One after another. How are the gloves stopping transmission from one credit card to the other? Just one infected person passed the virus on to 53 people in the space of two-and-a-half hours. Some of those infected were 14 meters away, so only aerosols would explain the transmission. <---- what about frequent-touch spots?

I just assumed that was spam and reported the post.

Where did you get the antibody test and did insurance pay? Been looking for a place to do this.

Yes, testing fatigue is already an issue and would only be compounded if mandatory testing was established. Again, this isn't a humanity-ending virus so there isn't a huge motivation to test regularly. A 5-minute test would help with this, especially if they could swab the cheek or something - many people don't like the nose swab. Imagine having to do that weekly, especially with no symptoms.

I'm also saying that 1) it's not all the POTUS'/Feds fault and that 2) quicker infection testing (5 min) is needed to really make the difference we need in this fluid situation, and 3) better antibody testing is needed to understand the immunity picture.

I think you guys are really missing some key things (from this June article): https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/06/27/1004545/us-covid-19-coronavirus-test-capacity-unused-available-reopening/ I'll summarize: It seem have a greater ability to test, but we don't due to state restrictions (symptoms only), not federal. In California, Governor Gavin Newsom has admitted that the state could test 100,000 people a day but is using only 40% of that capacity. Testing fatigue - this is a real thing and is already happening at these lower-levels of testing. Antibody testing (not infection testing) may be more useful at lull times to track the virus' progress in communities. Most scientists are in agreement for more testing, it seems, but not all agree to how much more is necessary to be effective. Testing time - needs to be quicker in order to be proactive real-time (again, the 5-minute test is key here). The logistics of testing the entire population weekly is enormously difficult, but more effective/possible with a quick test. Also, there is a mindset out there that this virus isn't the end of humanity as we know it and its survival rate is very high for most age groups. Therapeutics have improved a lot with less people dying in hospitals as well (not just due to lower average age). The DPA was enacted to prioritize testing for nursing homes (our most vulnerable population). Again, I'm all for more testing, but specifically quicker testing to really be effective in this fluid situation. We are learning a lot during this pandemic and I think the world will be more prepared for the next one.

No. No. Pretty impressive. Yes, but quicker testing for a truly better grip - as testing (and antibody testing) needs to be redone multiple times as things progress in this fluid situation.

That 'cohesive plan' requires adherence by the general public. Mandatory testing wouldn't fly. Also the DPA was enacted for N95s, ventilators, and testing in nursing homes. Hindsight is 20/20, but I really don't see how this could've been much more contained without doing serious long-term economical and psychological damage.