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ha ha. this is true.. but whatever.. its really warm

I keep seeing some nice ns energy dropping in... I think we will need that sort of thing this year.

The 540 0 degree line is new york

Thats bad news IMHO.. the only way to save this country is to cut off all of this aid and let the markets take care of it. Same is true for schools.. if people want something to change.. we should boycott taxes or layoff teachers. Once you start making hard decisions.. backing people in to a corner.. sensible solutions will come

I am somewhere between Herd Immunity and Full on Denier.. but anyway.. UPM executive reported that of all hospitalizations the vast majority of them were for overnight observations only. Not counting deaths where COVID was present and but there was an obvious separate cause, he indicated that they had 0 deaths in the latest surge. How do we go from a couple hundred thousand cases in a 3 weeks and 30,000 people dead in the spring in NYC to 200,000 cases a day and no deaths?

The vaccine facilitates/ accelerates herd immunity.

down in my part of the woods.. the only thing your allowed to say is stuff that is almost delusional.. like "kids dont spread corona virus in school"

Its called the "Upstate NY Coronavirus and Banter" thread.. so I would think that this would include opinions from both sides. If it is just a place to post the daily positivity rate and pretend that kids dont spread corona virus in schools.. than maybe I should be be cancelled/ censored.

It is not just me.. their are many from within the medical community and in academia feel the same way but we dont hear about this because of the "cancel culture". Doctors wont speak up because using the word "herd immunity" is about as bad as getting caught saying the N word as a politician. But there are a few.. in fact those that are at the absolute top of their field.. that are protected by Tenure and the reputation that proceeds them, that have the courage to speak up.. to name a few: Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

Precisely.. so we get about 30% of the nation even with all of this social distancing.. With no social distancing we would have hit the 70% sweet spot in about 1month back in March .. if schools and colleges were allowed to remain.. the vast majority of those cases would have been asymptomatic.. healthy population would build immunity and provide protection for those who dont do as well with this.. this would have saved lives. Instead, the virus meanders its way through the elderly population.. one nursing home/ palliative care facility at a time.. Additionally, if hospital protocols would have been sensible (like they are today), tens of thousands of lives would have been saved by not putting people in medically induced comas. Fear has driven this from the beginning. As a result, countless lives have been lost.

None of this would have been a problem if they would have just had training camp. They could have gotten all of this out of the way in August. Ed Orgeron said it best back in September.. "most of our players have caught it"..

Heres the deal... there is no doubt that the corona virus is real.. it is a novel virus and as such it is proving to be a tough go.. especially for people in the end stages of life. That being said, I would argue that we are way closer to herd immunity than we think (irregardless of what the nonsense serological surveys are saying) The numbers just dont make sense to me.. the reproductive rate of this virus is around 1.2 (even with social distancing)...I think this means that everyone person who gets the virus infects 1.2 people. Given that we have 200,000 confirmed cases a day.. even with a crude exponential calculation, over 10 million people should be infected after just a couple of days 200,000 -> 400,000 -> 800,000 -> 1,600,000 -> 3,200,000 -> 6,400,000 -> 12,800,000, and so on and so forth. And thats starting out with the total number of infections being yesterdays total positives.. but in reality.. we should have several million active cases.. And all of this is just with confirmed laboratory positive... who knows what the real numbers are.

I have bunch of time off from work and two kids that want to learn how to ski.. so I am hoping for the "wrapped up bomb"

lol.. we went snorkling and they shared the snorkle masks between trips multiple times a day

It should be the opposite.. we should focus on hiding our elderly at risk population and expose as many young people as possible I am.. i took my family to south florida for fourth of july

The problem as i see it is that this social distancing is negatively impacted the natural epidemiological process. We keep hiding our healthy population from this virus and it slowly skip traces its way through the most vulnerable.. leaving tragedy in its wake... The longer we let this thing circulate the worst it will get.

The reason why you can remove your mask to eat and drink is because everyone knows that the masks are bs virtue signaling...

I come from the school of life.. I can sniff out bs. This whole thing smells to high hell. Its about control and fear... our great grand children will be studying this period in world history as the time in which social media "crowd sourced" a pandemic by creating a snow ball that couldnt be stopped. It will be cautionary tale.

This looks okay I guess

yeah I saw that.. 3 feet.. it would certainly get the wisp season started!

Putting someone on a ventilator who does not need it is Medical Malpractice.. plain and simple. https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/ventilator-use-older-coronavirus-patients.html https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200422/most-covid-19-patients-placed-on-ventilators-died-new-york-study-shows#1

Now they give them steroids and tell them to roll over on there side... The hospital protocols in the early days was a one size fits all approach - if you blood oxygen level fell to a certain point, you were placed in a medically induced coma. this happened when you were all alone in the hospital with no one to advocate for you doctors in northern Italy, who made the same mistakes were telling us not to do this So many people were intubated that it got to the point where in some hospitals, there was a 1 Respiratory Therapist to 80 patients. Intubated patients were isolated, fed through feeding tubes leading out of the rooms and treatment for other illnesses like diabetes were ignored Many patients DEVELOPED kidney failure and pneumonia that didnt exist prior to hospitalization when patients crashed, nurses were told not to chest compressions.. These people died needlessly, alone and isolated from their families. Someone should be held accountable... like criminally held accountable.

This makes me cry... “Never in my life have I had to ask a patient to get off the telephone because it was time to put in a breathing tube,” said Dr. Richard Levitan, who recently spent 10 days at Bellevue Hospital Center in Manhattan.

What is nutty is this idea that we are going to somehow "contact trace" the flu.. here is your contact trace result.. EVERYONE HAS IT.. period the end.. its over. Stop killing people with ventilators.

When I was exercising yesterday.. I couldnt stop thinking about how the death rate has changed so drastically since the early days in NYC... it really boggles my mind.. was it a different COVID? probably not... https://academy.esicm.org/mod/emodulepage/view.php?id=7979 https://www.dentaquestpartnership.org/system/files/The Link Between Ventilator Pneumonia and the Mouth.pdf https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04372576 And my personal favorite is the ensuing class action lawsuit: https://www.gilmanbedigian.com/ventilator-associated-pneumonia