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6 hours ago, wxmanmitch said:

19" on 1.4" liquid here. Nice little snowstorm, but nothing we can't handle around these parts. Depth OTG is ~21". 

Except the power is out here in Wardsboro day 3. GMP had not done a great job on this one. 

26 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Jelly bro. Looks heavy. Love those with the mega snow piles everywhere.

He’s off to Montana State U  next fall for real winter lol 

2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Nice pic, you look the part. Country 4 evah

That’s my son lol. 18 yo after a powder day lol

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

How much

About 23”

1 minute ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

Stratton has some homes at 2400’

Yes it does. Up off Todd Hill and Benson Fuller. 

8 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

A lot of snow.  But I’m not Will.

Yeah but you know VT!!

41 minutes ago, mreaves said:

They are. Big snowmobile destination. 

I’m right up the road from Woodford in the Stratton area at about 1,800 feet. Hoping for a good dump. Will what are your thoughts for this area?

12 hours ago, powderfreak said:

storm

Pull for the more wrapped up hugger track, may as well help ski country. 

I’d be surprised if Will didn’t score a 6+”’paste bomb out of this one. I’m hoping for a decent dump at the cabin at Stratton 1,800 feet. 

11 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

The real irony is that the bulldog of a low out west that is the initial fly in the ointment may be a the SW that sparks our first good threat in about 11-12 days.

As far as the handling of the block...it looks like a compromise between what the GFS and EURO suite were advertising......initially, we do see the GFS scenario play out this week where they conjoin into a big ridge, but it doesn't last and ultimately the colder pattern will prevail.

For now. Don’t trust the euro suite. 

3 minutes ago, Snowcrazed71 said:

Trust me, I'm very excited about when the change will happen and when we get our first big snow event. If it doesn't happen this month, it doesn't happen this month. For all those that are freaking out, take a look at what's good in your life. We were able to adopt our daughter this past May. Those things are the reason why life is great. So if we don't get snow so be it. It's weather ..it will change

Absolutely. This is just about weather, not real life. 

12 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

Damn that’s ugly, and that’s the worshipped EPS. Have to let you spike the ball a little though after the knocks that you took. Kudos for the pattern recognition. Hats off to Jerry too for saying hold on a second Q has some validity and makes some fair points. With any risk management assessment in life you’ve got to weigh the options of what could break either way. 

9 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

PAC > Atlantic 

Pacific always more important that Atlantic. And I’ll take the +PNA over the western trough this time of year every year. At least it allows for chances of clippers, cold for snowmaking and perhaps a coastal. Once cold is established then a little SE ridge can be ok but not now. The NAO block really hurt in a couple ways. One, it was becoming clear as Q had said recently that the strength of the SE ridge left the door open for a linking with the North Atlantic block. He nailed that. Two, it really cutoff our cold source to the north so any cold air is stagnant and Maritime. We are fluctuating between puke maritime cold air and south east ridge warmth back-and-forth. December looks to end well above normal in temperature, below in snow and could be very wet with a few rainstorms the next 3 weeks. Only the highest of elevations in northern New England could get frozen precip. I do hold out hope though that an improved Pacific later in the month could lead to some better chances after the new year. But December outside of high elevations is punted. Christmas ski season very disappointing this year. 

4 minutes ago, mreaves said:

It’s bigger than Smuggs and always seemed to me to be easier to get to from Burlington. I golf with a couple of guys who work over there in winter but those guys are summer friends, I don’t talk to them this time of year lol. 

Sugarbush has a great following and really is a true resort in the Mad river valley. It’s a little off the beaten path but I think that’s its niche it’s pretty quiet big mountain. Not the wildest amenities but classic Vermont style and tons of skiable acreage there. Pretty good back country scene as well. As far as families go I think it caters to the ones looking for quieter quaint Vermont feel a little off the beaten path but still upscale. 

11 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah the ski areas on weekends and holidays have been busy gong shows since I was a kid.  I mean my family would go to Okemo and I remember not being able to find places to sit and put your boots on it’s so busy.  Early 1990s style skiing, ha.

Killington crazy town, even Gore on holidays or weekends felt bustling busy, people parking down the access road and riding their shuttle.

The thing is I don’t remember the complaining about it that we do now.  Maybe I was a kid and didn’t care and my parents were swearing behind our backs?  Social media has also become a vehicle for complaints of all type of societal stuff.  But not finding a seat in a lodge to get booted up, or parking in a snowbank and waiting in a healthy liftline, that’s my memory of skiing growing up and I loved it, ha.  Now that’s a social outrage.

I have fond memories of those things, getting bussed from a far corner of the lot at Bromley… my mom making two trips (god bless her) on the shuttle to bring all the gear while I stay with my younger sisters. Now people seem to say if they have kids they need to park right next to a lodge and if they can’t it’s not worth it.  The stuff my mom used to do for us blows my mind now.  Then we’d be so stoked to go ski crushed ice cubes and circa 1991 snowmaking/grooming after a rain event.

People complain about everything. I still have fond memories of growing up skiing in the 80s and 90s. My dad would pack sodas and ham sandwiches and midday we’d walk a half mile back to the truck to eat. Best damn ham sandwiches I ever had. 

BTW PF my Son starts at Montana State next August. He’s studying in their business resort management program and trying to pair it up with some of their other mountain courses etc. and also interning at big sky. The people at big sky say they need interns and workers badly and it’s not such a bad career path now with the work that’s out there. If you don’t mind working in a resort winter and summer and maybe not getting rich but having decent work in an enjoyable career maybe it’s a good move for him. He’s a New England guy lol but I’m just not sure he’ll come back

1 hour ago, Snowcrazed71 said:

Man.. why are you stirring up controversy. At least 40/70 Benchmark brings some facts and puts in the effort on what the models are showing. Wrong place to come at someone who is probably one of the more grounded and brings factual posts to this forum. 

When you have something that explains your reasoning to differ..than post that, not insults. 

Again I just started my opinion in a post that had nothing to do with him and he called me a “puke”? That’s ok? That’s why I fired back. 

2 hours ago, mahk_webstah said:

stop.  you pulled the same BS last year.  Come on now.

Calling me a ‘puke’ for stating my opinion is ok though?

20 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

God, you are such a puke. They implied that the GEFS and GEPS may be handling the Pacific better in that the neutralization of the RNA will be delayed (which I agree with)....has nothing to do with his point, which was the NAO block sending the chain of PAC shortwaves south and under said block. 

Classic neg NAO/RNA snow pattern.

Worry about your own game, plenty to keep you busy there. 

12 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Dude lol

Dude what? The EPS has not been good. 

34 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

still think that the period around the 12th holds a good amount of potential... looks like a strong shortwave gets forced under the block and amplifies

the EPS is really nice looking after the 12-14th threat. the -NAO sits in the Davis Strait and the West Coast becomes more favorable as the MJO straightens itself out

I still believe that we're going to see a lot of chances after the 15th as the pattern fully develops. these take time to form... there was even lots of frustration before BDB in 2010

Stop following the EPS it’s terrible! Even the NWS has basically thrown in out in their recent discussion in favor of the American/Canadian blend. The EPS has been like throwing a dart. 

I know what you guys are saying but I think you need to pump the brakes a little on the it never snows in December train. It snowed plenty of times in November and especially the first half of December in the interior and the mountains at a minimum. Right now we aren’t even getting that and the ski season is off to a terrible start and not looking so great for the next 2 to 3 weeks. I know climo is trending in our favor but it’s not as if we’ve never had good winter weeks this time of year. And with the forecasted block that was coming and the pattern flip most were calling for it was looking like very soon we were going to be in a real, real solid pattern. That may come in a delayed manner but right now it’s not looking very good. At a minimum we are in the Christmas week now probably for anything on the coastal plain. And the mountains are looking to deal with at least a couple of cutters  before there’s any real chance. 

6 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Something like 18z GEFS shows what I was talking about the good pattern keeps on getting pushed back. Just rinse and repeat trough in west and ridge in east through day 12+… 

Everything aside from some questionable probability long-term ensemble runs leans towards punting the next 15 days outside of high elevation NNE. And those ensembles are trending worse and getting kicked down the road. Sensible weather, persistence and operational  runs indicate close the shades until maybe last 10 days of month. And that’s too far out to have much trust in whether this pattern will indeed flip. 

1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

I certainly hope I was wrong.. but I made posts about this exact thing happening 2 weeks ago when this all started showing up.  We worried about delays and changes. In my 50 years on this Earth typically when things in life are delayed they typically do not end the way you envisioned. I always harken back to snow.. 12+ is forecasted.. but all of a sudden the moon is visible when it was supppsed to be S+. How often has that ever ended well? Hopefully the Mets forecasts hear of great things happens. I’m still “worried” 

Agree. And remember the talk wasn’t just about it cooling down or we might be just near normal to climatology etc.. It was more talk of historic block, 2010 walking through the door, monster potential all that. 

3 minutes ago, mreaves said:

You mean the last 5 minutes that take 45 to play?  The NFL has actual action for about 18 minutes of actual football in a game that takes 3 hours.  I county watch any of it weren’t for the Red Zone. 

The average NFL game actually has roughly 11 minutes of ball in play time.