ORH_wxman

Huh? Did you mean 2001? If you meant 2001 you are probably thinking of the Nov 16, 2002 ice storm in CT...yes, November....really early, but it smoked the higher elevation of CT with a lot of ice damage. It wasn't devastating like 2008 in MA or '73 in CT, but it was pretty bad. Def the worst ice storm in CT in the past decade.

You are thinking of the Dec 16, 1973 ice storm if you were in CT at the time...that was the worst ice storm there in the past 50 years minimum...possibly 100 years. The 2008 ice storm here had local effects worse than Oct 2011 and I think part of the reason Oct 2011 wasn't as bad was because of the Dec 2008 ice storm...it pruned so many large vulnerable branches that weren't there to get ripped off in 2011 like in the lowest parts of ORH and obviously down in Hartford and including Kevin's Tolland CT...most of CT except higher spots in Litchfield county avoided much damage in Dec 2008. Oct 2011 still had some good damage here, but it could have been so much worse if 2008 hadn't happened before it...but of course we went through the disaster 3 years earlier with people not having pwoer for 7-14 days around here back then. Most people in this area in October got it back within 5 days this time. I was out for about 60 hours.

Well def for CT...I'm not sure about MA though since Oct 2011 "missed" a large portion of MA with big snows...even though lots of people had power outages with 6" of snow in interior E MA. There's some coastal flooding monsters like Dec 1992 in E MA that combined with the snow inland that might put Oct '11 behind it. But I agree overall it was a monster impact storm for SNE. I would be interested in hearing the damage totals when they finally get them final (in adjusted dollars of course)...the lack of coastal flooding in Oct '11 will prob put it behind a few snowstorms in NE...but in terms of just the snow damage dollars, nothing comes close to Oct '11...not even close.

Probably not...Feb 1899 probably did.but that was pre-1900. The leaves on the trees made the October storm so unique.

Last February

Pretty anomalous for DJF...about as bad as it gets...we'll have to see where Feb finishes (as there's a few threats still)...but it could end up worse than '88-'89. Dec 1992 is the storm I always look back at when I'm feeling down about snow.

Yeah we actually nearly verified blizzard conditions and the only reason we didn't is we kept getting too many obs with visibility in the 1/2 mile and 3/4 mile range. ORH has 6 consecutive hours gusting over 40 knots (not mph) in that storm.

Good storm, but not overwhelming here...the most exciting part by far was the model chase with Boxing Day last year.

That was such a crazy winter in S NH...I could never manage over a 20 inch snow pack that winter despite getting almost 80" of snow...but up there you guys must have had 3 feet anyway. 4 feet wasn't out of the question...esp up into C NH.

The last pic could have been April 1st last year? We didn't have a lot of wet snowstorms last year where we were. Only Apr 1st and maybe the 3-4 incher on Feb 8 before the cold front came in.

So you are saying "the dice were loaded" in the LIA? In all seriousness, the common famines of the 1600s and 1700s and starvation due to particularly harsh winters is not something unknown about the LIA. I brought up that period because if we are going to go bananas over a degree of warming, then we should probably talk about how ugly a temp decrease of that same magnitude would be. The bottom line is the climate is not stable no matter how much we want it to be. Would 4C of warming by 2100 have catastrophic consequences? It sure would but that is unlikely to happen. The biggest debate in AGW vs skeptics is the climate sensitivity which has recently been gaining evidence of projections initially too high.

No its not...you are pointing out an article that tries to show that things are worse in Bangladesh because of global warming....does that mean we should root fro global cooling now which may make Bangladesh better off but drastically hurt other regions? The point of my post was that most of these articles only show how it could be bad for spots and that nobody ever benefits from warmer temps. They basically sensationalize the Little Ice Age as this climate utopia and the current state we are in as so much "worse than we thought".

There's always going to be spots in the world worse off with climate changing either direction. Its a poor analogy. Its a good thing we aren't as cold as 200 years ago, otherwise crop production would be a lot worse and we'd see more famine on the globe. That's another way to look at it. I can't imagine the amount of famine we'd have if some of those colder years during the LIA happened again now.

That winter had some horrifying model teases...that storm...the Dec 19 storm (for interior where we got screwed)...Feb 10, 2010...and then December 1992 plus half a degree in mid March.

Remember when the GFS and UKMET were giving us a Feb '69 redux about 4 days out before the New Years 2010 retrograde storm? I got really excited for a brief time during that model run until the Euro was the buzzkill.

That storm is nicknamed "The 100 Hour Storm"...it was a retrograde job as kind sort of be seen well by the snowfall distribution. Most of the snow fell in a 2 day period though from Feb 24 to Feb 25, 1969...though there was still some moderate snow on the 26th. I believe that storm is still Blue Hill's biggest storm on record with 38.7"

They weren't living in Princeton yet. They moved there in 1994. The 42" is from the base of Wachusett.

Doubt we see a repeat any time soon, lol. The duration of that storm was most impressive. It snowed for like 36 hours.

You got more than 25"...probably more like 27-28" there. The center of Shrewsbury up higher probably had 30". I had 34-35" in Holden MA at the time.

Dec 1992 had a prediction of 2-4 inches 24 hours before the storm, lol. They maybe meant feet and not inches. It started as rain here too...I was in 6th grade and in social studies class right next to the window and the radiator....I was falling asleep from the hot air blowing on me but was staring out the window. Then all of the sudden a huge gust of wind came and the air filled with flakes, and as the gust subsided the flakes did too and it went back to mostly to rain...this process continued for about 10 minutes and then eventually one gust brought the flakes back and they never left after that. That was about 11:15 am on that Friday morning.

Ray did ok in that storm..his area in E MA was one of the few areas at lower elevation that made out well..he got around 20 inches. The valleys to the west of the hills got screwed so bad in part because of the absolutely howling winds out of the ENE which enahnced the downslope effect.

My favorite storm and favorite winter in my life

Well the Euro had it l like 5 days out, but then lost it by 60-72 and we all thought it was gone...remember we said congrats Phil on getting a 3-5" scraper when the Euro finally went east. Then the GFS at 12z on Dec 24 was the first model to bring it back.

Yeah you can see how the 12z Euro on the 19th whiffed. Then the 00z ETA nailing us, lol...the comments back then are kind of funny to read http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?/topic/16161-new-eta-rolling-in/page__st__40 I was still on WWBB for this storm.

There was a run or two where the Euro kind of lost it around 84-96 hours out....then when the ETA could "see" the storm at its long range 84 hours, it shows a big hit...the very next run the Euro joined it again and we knew it was game on.....you are right how it kept trending better and better with each run in the final 48h....the ETA/Euro at like 60-72 hours were showing a MECS type storm, like 10-15"...not a HECS...and the GFS was way southeast and the GGEM/Ukie were kind of scrapers. Then the ETA started going gangbusters inside of that 48h frame and got more and more obscene with each run. Euro looked close, but it was hard to tell because back then we didnt have Euro qpf maps...only the crude weather.unisys maps or the even worse ecmwf.int freebie maps.