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On 6/17/2017 at 6:58 PM, Damage In Tolland said:

Every time models show sustained cooling,,,they back off.. Today's runs show normal for a day or 2 back to humid and warm for a few days like we see currently..then another front..No high heat thru month end..but quite a bit of high dews, severe risks, and then a day or 2 of low 80's and dry. Pretty warm signal all told

I'm just reading through old posts and getting caught up and had to chuckle at this post.  I think I've seen this one year after year every summer.

1 hour ago, dendrite said:

I wonder how much money was lost for those who installed in April yet ran the heat for 6 weeks?

At least they weren't sweaty from waiting to install them?

27 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Yes tomorrow. No one is squeezing into anything. We split up this year . Wife and 13 yr old daughter going to Cape tourney. 11yr old daughter and I going to premier tourney in Marlborough. I'm telling everyone near 70 with sun/ cloud mix. Similar to conditions over e lakes today 

Did 70-75 just become near 70°?

On another note, I feel bad you have to split your family up like that over a game.  That sounds tough.

29 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Wow 

 

That map only shows the days departure, not the months.  The past couple of days only moved my average temp from coldest May average to 6th coldest May since 1985.

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

Since BOS has been a Logan airport, only May 1967 was colder than 2005. For Tamarack's 19 year period, BOS also has the next closest May a full 3 degrees warmer (May 2003) vs 2005. That month (2005) was 6.1F below the 1936-2016 mean. Not sure what the departure is for Tamarack's place if you maybe compared Farmington to their 1936-2016 mean.

They must have had some serious easterly flow that month - I have 4 colder May's than 2005.  May 1990 & 94 were 1.8° colder than 2005 here at averaging around 51° compare to my normal of 56.6°F.

17 minutes ago, tamarack said:

That was indeed the worst, but for the month I had measurable rain on 23 days, including 15 of the final 17 (and a trace on the other 2) and 8.20" total.  The 10th/11th reached low 70s but 65 was tops otherwise, and you might not have played in shorts up here on 15-16.  Rain on both days with highs 50 and 51.
(And 2005 wasn't done messing with us.  June 15-18 had highs of 52,53,55,56 [avg high 71-72] with near constant -RA, and my re-planted corn once again rotted in the ground.)

We've had a couple more crap days/events this month than down there...4 days with highs in the 40s already here for May. 2005 definitely got off to a better start than we have this month, but the more data I looked at it was obvious that SNE, and especially the coast, had it worse than we did in 05. It's not like I'm claiming it was nice, but the core of the schit was definitely down there.

I would disagree, given the evidence above.  2005 is my coldest May of 19 here, more than 3F below #2. 
I've had only two sub-50 highs this month, though only reached 51 on 3 other days.  Max to date is 63.  Of course, I had 4 days in the 70s last month, topped by 75 on the 29th.

It's #5 for me and precip wise doesn't show up in the top 10.  2008 was colder and wetter for me but 1990 is near the top of the list for me.

13 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Lowest temp was 37. 2 days under 50. No wind with sunny breaks . Not great. Not terrible. One of the two weekend days , if not both above 50 as rain starts mid afternoon Sat and ends early Sunday with pm sun . Point is.. 2005 rained almost everyday. Huge difference 

Are you talking here and May 2005?  I only had measurable precip on 14 out of 31 days in May 2005.  We did have that one 7 day stretch from the 21st that it rained every day but other than that, it wasn't raining every day.

I agree that May has been totally manageable at least for our locale but others have not been as lucky in terms of precip.  I'm not minding the temps at all.  It's been great to get stuff down outdoors and not be sweating.  There's plenty of time for nice warm New England summer days before fall.

1.38" at BDL.

Ahhh that is much different than what I was envisioning from MetHerb's post.

Yeah that's definitely a downslope screw job then. I thought the valley had 2-3" of QPF.

Disregard my previous post lol.

BDL may have had only 1.38" but like I said, places on the eastern edge of the valley had 1" more. 

I posted this earlier this year but I put up a video that my brother and I shot during the storm driving from Stafford up to Union and then on to Worcester, Hull and Boston before returning.  I measured around 24" in Union in the morning and when we returned there was about 30".  You can also see the transition from snow to rain and the wave action in Hull.

What were total QPF amounts? Was it that no precip fell in the valleys or was it rain?

I honestly can't really fathom that map. That's more obscene gradients than our upslope precipitation events in the Greens. Would've loved to see a radar loop of that entire storm. Like what would a vertical profile look like to have so much blocked air over the terrain to wring out that much snow, yet be able to downslope the valleys so much. That takes a very special set of circumstances (inversion levels or slight veering winds) more than just saying east flow upslope/downslope.

I can assure you that it was raining in the valley.  It literally went from rain to a foot+ in about a mile as the crow flies and 800' up.  One of the sharpest cutoff's I've ever seen.  At my parents house in the valley we had 2.45" of QPF and 3.2" of snow.  Stafford Springs (next town over and elevated) had a little over 3" of QPF.  Like I said, snow ranged from around a foot in the lowest places to close to 30" in the highest.

That's a really bad depiction of that storm. The Ct Valley itself had 6-10 depending on location. There was 16-18 ion this general area.

My parents in in the valley portion of Somers only had about 3".  The hills above them had over a foot....very sharp cutoff.  Union had over 30" so that map is a little off.  Elevation definitely played a role around here.

Was sleet all day until late afternoon/early eve when it mixed and finally went to snow. Think we ended up with 7-8

I had an early morning snow shower that left .1" and then sleet from 2-4PM but snow after that till about 3AM.  I had 6.6".  A lot of wind with that one too.

Somers has very high points on the Tolland/Ellington line. In fact Soapstone Mountain which is less than 10 minutes from me is near 1,000k. It's crazy though..how fast you lose elevation as you go down into the center of Somers twds Enfield

 

That wxradio Herb/David had on in the background used to get signals from a transmitter on top of Soapstone. there's some great running/hiking trails there and a fire tower at the top with great views

Northern Tolland County & a little north into Mass. is a decent plateau compared to surrounding areas.  The center of Somers is already down to under 300' and you're under 20' at the Connecticut River.  I'd rather be where I am...

They still transmit the NOAA weather radio from Soapstone but the old BDL weather radar is no longer in use.  I think they just use it as a transmitting tower but you're right about the views. 

That was the first storm that educated me on the CT Valley snow hole. I was young and ignorant back then, so I used to always think the further west you went, the more snow you got. Then we were out 2 days after the storm at the grocery store and this lady from Springfield made a comment on how they only got an inch or two of slush and I didn't believe her, but she insisted it was amazing driving from there to ORH and going from 1-2" to over 30".

I was living at 290' at the base of an 1100' hill in Somers at the time and we did not turn over to snow until later on that Saturday.  BDL and western parts of the valley turned before we did and I think I was living in the last place to turn to snow in that storm!

Digging up old wounds. That ride from Enfield to Union on 190 had about a 20 inch snowfall difference.

I was living in Somers at the time....had nothing Saturday morning and the drive up the hill by no more than a mile or so changed that to 13" of snow.  Union doubled that but that storm changed me from someone that would get upset at that to just accepting what I had.  A few years later there was a Norlun that dumped 13-17" over my house in a couple of hours and I missed it trying to chase it elsewhere....d'oh!

Great video John.. Brings back good memories. Which one is you? In the bomber Celtics jacket or the Russian hat?

lol....it's Dave (or as everyone hear calls me 'Herb') but I'm the guy with the hat.  I have no idea why I brought that hat because I remember it being really hot and you needed temps below zero to make it work.  I bought it in Canada when I was living in Lyndonville.

What amazes me is the change in technology since then.  Here we were driving around and only had a scanner and AM radio to know what was happening.  I remember stopping at a phone booth and calling a colleague to get some info which is why we decided to go to the coast.  The video doesn't do that justice because of the focus and the fact that the tide had started to go out by the time that we got there but I had never seen such a caldron before or since.

I kind of chuckled at the comment I made saying I had never seen anything like it but you have to remember that since my birth I had never seen a 2' snow storm and since it all happened in less than 24 hours the impact was even more impressive.  I've seen several storms since then and that storm seem to be a game changer as there was winters before that and winters after that in terms of storms.

I found a video that my brother and I shot of the December '92 Nor'easter and I wanted to share it for those that didn't get to fully experience it.  We drove from Stafford, CT through Union and then downtown Worcester before going to Hull and downtown Boston.  Outside of some goofball/awkward moments, it gives you a real sense of the conditions on that Saturday about 24 hours into the storm. 

You can tell by the comments that we had never seen anything like it and were really amazed by the conditions.  At one point you can can hear the NOAA weather radio guy and how impressed he is as well. 

Enjoy!

Saw some in Lowell MA of all places around 1989 or so

Cloudy to my north attm.

Probably.  I was at Lyndon at the time and it was an awesome show.   I think it was visible down to Florida on that one.

Just came in from taking a look and didn't see anything.  I don't have the best view to the north due to hills though.  The wind makes it tougher to stay out too long unless you're dressed for it.

what is so special about 5:02? why not 5:00  or 5:04?  

 

The Governor will update the public at 5:02 p.m. this evening on the impending storm from the state Emergency Operations Center in Hartford.  The Governor is also encouraging people to monitor the media for up-to-date information on the storm.

It might be a media thing.  It gives the television media time to start the newscast and intro the segment before going live to the governor.

i dont think they wanted to put the 24-36s up but they had to mesh it with BOX.

We can analyze all of the model runs until we're blue in the face, but it's hard to pin down those deformation bands until the event gets cranking. I still think it looks best for that ORH-LWM-PSM corridor, but we'll see how it plays out. I liked 10-14" here last night and GYX has me in that now. High bust potential either way.

That's my thought.  I'm liking my call of 20" ±2" for MBY but I'd like to see where that band sets up (as I know everyone would!).

I kinda like the color enhanced WV loop:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-wv.html

It makes the clouds pop....

GFS gives Will and I around 2 feet..but I still toss it regardless

I have concerns of us winding up between the two bands.  We still do well, but we'll have to see how things setup once everything gets going.

Yeah these board issues are troubling

I wish there was a way that access could be limited to members at times like this.  There are 80+ people using this particular forum at the time and the majority are guests.  It would certainly help lighten the load.

The pics of the flooding in CT were impressive. It's hard to imagine coastal flooding that bad from e-ne winds.

I actually never made it to the CT coast because I didn't think the wave action would be that good. We went to Hull, a place I had never been before, and it turned out to be great place to see the ocean swells and huge waves crashing right on the sea wall.

This was the first real big storm that happened after I got out of college and I remember everyone looking to me for info and I spent a lot of time gathering data in the pre-Internet days (even though I went to school for Met I've always worked in the IT business). I had an old radio fax machine that I dusted off so I could get charts. I was up late on Saturday looking at data and my brother came home from work and wanted to do some storm chasing so we headed out. It was great storm to chase....better than the March '93 storm I think.

Your map Will

I couldn't see the new and improved version of this, but I was living in Somers, CT around 300' at the time and this truely had the greatest gradient I've seen. I had 3.2" by the time everything was done but just a few miles east of me there was 12-14" around 900'. The amounts rose dramatically from there in Union, CT and I remember measuring 32-35" in the morning as my brother and I drove to the coast to check out the waves there. I'd have to check my weather record but I thought I had measured around 37" in Union when we were driving back home in the afternoon. I rank this as one of my favorite storms even though I got screwed at my house.