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27 minutes ago, mattie g said:

Or maybe it was just a blown forecast.

Impossible.

Adding: Now down to 35.1 here.  Morning high of 38.7 looks secure.

38.7 for the high so far in GF (at ~9:40am).  Currently at 36.9.

A few scattered flurries (under partly cloudy skies) in Great Falls.  Lasted maybe 3 minutes.  But a T is a T.

2 hours ago, WEATHER53 said:

Another bad miss on the high temps for today.  Calling for 36 at DCA tomorrow and I think that’s going to be off also. Hope these models are not already off kilter by 5-10 for the cold season. 

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44 here, down from a high of 46.  I think NWS had our forecast high at 45.

32.4 in Great Falls. 

Has winter 2033-34 been cancelled yet?  Trying to plan out the next 10 years.

Bottomed out at 33.6 just before 5am. Now 41.9. 

22 minutes ago, pazzo83 said:

sorry it bothers you that the regional climate is warming significantly.

low 50s for highs / mid-upper 30s for lows was a pretty typical mid winter day here for the past few years.  Also it's not "early" fall - meteo winter starts in like 2.5 weeks.

Can say with high confidence that the regional climate has not warmed 10 degrees over the current normals (which is what would be needed for low 50s / upper 30s to be typical for mid-winter).

28.8 overnight in Great Falls. 

Thermometer bottomed out at 33 but yesterday’s rain had turned into a sheet of ice on the car, so I’ll go with 32. 

37 minutes ago, Weather Will said:

Since it is a slow week ahead, will post the latest WB EURO control for December which is perfectly acceptable.

That's like 82 inches with Kuchera.  Lock it up.

Topped out at 76 in Great Falls.

We need a separate pot plant obs thread . . .

45 for the low in GF.

Low of 33.1 and very frosty in Great Falls 

29.8 this morning in Great Falls.

27.7 this morning in Great Falls. 
 

(Mistakenly posted this earlier in the first freeze contest thread. Should have waited until I drank my coffee…)

Made it down to 34 at 4:20am, then spiked up to 41 pre-front, and now back down to 37.

36.7 for the low with some light frost in Great Falls. 

5 hours ago, mattie g said:

But you can't extrapolate a pattern in the beginning of fall out through winter.

I'm not sure why anyone is handwringing right now.

To be fair, some in this forum start handwringing about next winter in March . . .

2 hours ago, stormy said:

Only one example: That has disappointment written all over it with slight variance.

This shows above-normal precip, right?

18 minutes ago, 87storms said:

I don't think there's a right answer for how many teams should make the postseason.  The main reason for the play-in games in the NBA is to avoid tanking for high lottery picks (like the Lebron's and Wemby's of the world), though with the amount of parity increasing, lottery picks may not matter as much as they once did which could make the play-in games a bit "extra".

As for baseball, I think it's fine as-is.  I certainly thought having only 2 from each league make the playoffs back in the day was a little weird, but maybe 4 was good enough.  That said, if you get swept in a best of 5 after having a small break to rest aches and pains (which any athlete would appreciate), then you're just not ready to win it all.

The main reason for the play-in games is money.  A bunch of meaningless late season games between mediocre teams can be hyped as having playoff implications.  The "less tanking" explanation makes no sense to me.  If you are going to tank for better lottery odds, you are still going to tank irrespective of the carrot of a chance at backing your way into the playoffs as the #10 team in your conference.  

Actally a little cooler today here -- 95 in Great Falls.

88 in Great Falls at 11:55.  Same as yesterday.

Cooler start this morning than yesterday, however -- 69 vs. 74.

6 minutes ago, TSSN+ said:

83 at 9am IAD. Was 77 yesterday. 

I think you may be off by a day.  Per below, IAD was 83 at 9am yesterday too.  77 at 9am on Monday.

https://w1.weather.gov/obhistory/KIAD.html

Topped out at 97 in Great Falls.  Now a much more comfortable 94.