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We all know Buffalo's Red Zone Defense isnt the best either....

Sounds like something only a concerned democrat would say....interesting. I figured you would be all about them making their own choices.

I'm a Cuomo fan for the most part but I do remember being super pissed when he tried to blame the NWS in Buffalo for failing to forecast this event. They forecasted it just fine, there is just nothing you can do when it snows 6 feet in a day. It's going to be a shit show regardless..

If we seceded we’d be the poorest state in the nation for our population size. NYC completely props us up and funds the dying upstate rust belt. Monroe county is one of the poorest counties in the nation for its size. Erie and Onondaga are the other two biggest counties and all three run massive deficits every single year (and we are the “good” counties upstate). We get a hell of a lot more money and resources from NYC than they get from us. I’m always shocked this isn’t obvious. Seceding would be absolute suicide for upstate.

Man oh man, with thanksgiving next week this is setting up for the perfect storm. I’m hoping people make good choices.

What’s going on in Erie county? 802 new cases today . That seems crazy

The masks in your own house states that it’s only necessary if you are bringing strangers into the mix. I know it sounds crazy but it’s honestly the right thing to do. If one of my neighbors comes over for something we mask up. If I go help the elderly woman next store with her computer I mask up. They aren’t saying wear a mask in your house all the time, just when intermingling with others. It’s obviously not enforceable but the premise is sound. This whole thing sucks. Some of you act like we are all doing this for fun or to stick it to the right. It’s just not true. We are all trying to figure out how to beat this. It’s a shame it’s not a team effort.

The “we have more cases because we are testing more” might be the single most mind boggling statement during this whole thing. If we are finding more cases because of more testing it only confirms that this thing is more out of control than we realized. You can test a billion people and if no one has it your numbers will be zero (I know that sounds obvious but apparently it isn’t). Testing only confirms the existing problem.

Pretty thorough article that confirms that mask mandates do indeed work. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/18/us/covid-state-restrictions.html?action=click&module=Top+Stories&pgtype=Homepage&fbclid=IwAR0p5mdHa501xmqGXOxYv6FjX1GK0iHXDDZKl09F3tkU2488apNQiGlhB_E

So if we stop testing this goes away immediately? Fascinating stuff here.

I work with plenty of people in there 60s who are terrified of catching this and having permanent damage or dying 20 years premature (and they have no serious comorbidities) Any person who doesn’t take this seriously Is foolish. I’ve seen enough stories on healthy people ending up in very rough shape, the chances are low but far from zero. I’m not taking any chances. 250k is a huge number for a disease that didn’t exist in this country 10 months ago. Drop in the bucket my ass, these are real people dying. Republicans are so crass and heartless, it’s unreal.....and they take pride in it. It’s bizarre and sad.

What part of that post was offensive? It was a simple counterpoint. He has since responded and didn’t seem upset. Also, what do tags have to do with any of this. One of my posts was deleted? I had no idea. Which one and why? And who are you, A mod?

Trump has said many times that we test too much. And we need to slow down testing. On what planet could any sane human suggest such a thing during a pandemic. Testing is the single most important thing we have until a vaccine is developed. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, testing is the key to beating this...and we (and the rest of the world) blew it completely. We still haven’t tested even half the country 9 months into this thing.. not good enough. The fact that Trump could ever suggest this confirms that he is treating this like some golf game with the rest of the worlds leaders (and as usual, he’s still losing) which is sickening. He doesn’t care if people get sick or die, just as long as no one knows about it and we don’t broadcast the numbers. And then when he does try to spin it, he erroneously will say no one has tested more than us; which is both false per capita, and not something we should be bragging about anyway. It’s just so bad. There is no worse person to handle a crisis where science and empathy are critical.

Vortmax. You are smarter than this. The Trump admin may have taken the bare minimum of actions during this pandemic but to defend Trump is laughable. I can pull up all the times he said it would go away. The times he said it was just one guy and it would soon be zero. Him claiming it would disappear with warm weather. Him being reluctant to bring 15 people from the cruise ship ashore because it would make the numbers look bad (lol, he was worried about 15 people and we now have 180,000 cases a day). Him saying we will open back up by easter. Him calling it hoax. Etc etc. Why defend Trump on this topic? He’s been an absolute abomination. You know it. I know it. Give it up, it’s embarrassing.

That guy was nuts though, he instigated that whole thing, He was on the attack 90 percent of that video and completely in over his head. You simply cant be attacking 20 people, women included, and not think you're going to get your world rocked. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Ugly video regardless...

You’re talking about too different things. Just because they aren’t making money doesn’t mean they have the staff or supplies to handle a pandemic size load of sick covid patients.

Lets not call it mine or yours. We are just linking things. I don't stand behind either one. But to use your logic. The link you mentioned is just them saying it did happen with zero proof. I typically will believe the NY Times before Q anon though, call me crazy.

And here is a non Q Anon article on the same topic. Weird wild times that we now have to debunk the absolute wackiest of conspiracy theories. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/technology/no-dominion-voting-machines-did-not-cause-widespread-voting-problems.html

For educated and financially sound white males living in safe neighborhoods; it takes a certain amount of perception to appreciate what this means to so many others. It’s a good day indeed.

This is so spot on. I’ve think I’ve got dust in my eyes or something. watch the video. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/07/van-jones-reaction-2020-election-result-elexnight-vpx.cnn

This argument is always a little interesting. Your vote counts, if every single democrat felt that way and didnt vote, we wouldnt be a blue state. Someone has to be voting, obviously. It not like NY is blue regardless of who shows up at the polls. NY just happens to have an enormous amount of democrats because of NYC But I completely understand your premise and agree it should be a straight popular vote!

They often say there are 5-10 times more cases than are actually reported. So are we already at 1 million cases a day? I actually think 500k cases a day is right around the corner too. The US chose herd immunity, a bold and dangerous strategy. Our hospitals are about to get destroyed. This is finally the actual pandemic. And somehow we are not much better prepared than 6 months ago.

This is actually critical. If Biden only gets 270 there is a huge chance a few faithless electors won’t vote for him and then Trump takes it. We need a serious buffer. Can you imagine the riots?! Would completely dwarf the BLM movement. Scary times to be honest.

You could be right, but I'm a confessed germaphobe so its hard for me to tell how a normal person behaves. Every scenario you mentioned makes my skin crawl. I was a germaphobe long before this pandemic and would certainly wash or sanitize my hands after every scenario you listed (or at least be cognizant of it and wash my hands at the next available opportunity.) Maybe thats just me..... and if it is, then the rest of the world is gross and needs to step up their game. I joked when this pandemic started that now everyone gets to feel the way I feel everyday, lol. I've been training my whole life for this..