RDM

Last time I remember such a quick temp crash like that was the Blizzard of 78 growing up in Ohio, on 25 Jan, 78. We lived just North of Dayton where it gets really flat - not much to stop the wind. Was at our town's little airport with my dad the evening before it hit working on his Beechcraft and the barometer was dropping so fast there were times we could adjust the altimeter in the plane every 2 minutes (mechanical altimeters back them worked on air pressure). My dad said something special was coming even though temps were warm with driving rain. Remember him being in awe at the pressure drop which eventually bottomed out at 28.23, one of the lowest ever recorded in the US. The normal threshold for cyclogenesis is 24mb drop in 24 hours - the blizzard of 78 had a drop of 70mb in 24 hours. You could feel your ears popping and the pressure drop actually induced labor in a number of pregnant women - my dad was a paramedic and delivered at least one baby in the back of our town's 4x4 rescue squad. The winds came in overnight and temps went from mid/upper-40's and driving rain to lower teens and sn++ in a fraction of an hour with winds that eventually reached 70+mph. Woke up at 6am wondering why it was so cold in the house and wondering that "noise" was outside - it was the wind howling like I'd never heard before. The flash freeze of all the standing water made it all the more difficult to clear the snow, which drifted so bad it shut-down the GL and Ohio Valley for days. I was a sophomore in HS and believe we missed a week and a half of school. Power outages were wide-spread with many stranded for days before they could be rescued, often by snowmobile - there's some pics on Wikipedia of the Ohio Turnpike. Governor of Ohio activated the Nat Guard to deliver supplies by helo to stranded farmers with livestock in danger of freezing and starving. Many did loose a LOT of lifestock anyway and the financial impact was terrible. We only received about 12" in Dayton, with more as you went North. But the drifts were incredible and 20+ feet in places. Many of the roads, to include interstates, were closed until the snowblowers from major airports could get to them. We had some local roads closed for over a week in our area. It started getting really serious when the one grocery store in our town of 6000 was nearly out of anything edible. The shelves were bare by the time they could get trucks in to restock the shelves. People start to do desperate things when they get hungry. Will never forget it....

A potentially feigned attempt to draw another analogy to this setup.... Comparing this to the world of fluid dynamics in rivers, where eddy currents form on the edge of whirlpools that's are then sucked downstream by the main flow of the river. In this case, the ULL at the bottom of the trough generates the lead wave as a byproduct of the ULL's rotation. The lead wave is driven up the trough by the UL jet, while the main ULL digs in before moving on itself. Does that make sense?

Fantastic Bob - no doubt you are doing a lot of things the right way beyond being part of the foundation here. That's great. Can only imagine how proud your son is going to be too. Real life learning opportunities like this are too infrequent these days...

Bob, no doubt you were inoculated against having any chance of becoming jipolar a long time ago. Most of us received that immunity at a young age... Sitting at 6.5" here about a mile NW of Vienna. Picking up again....

6-1/4" just NW of Vienna on Lawyers Road. Looks to be some building down around Raleigh. Hope good stuff mentioned by the NWS for this afternoon makes far enough N&W to give us all some more. Wes should be in a prime location for that.

Great second pic of your son. The awe he must feel with what today has in store for him.... I'm nearly 60 years old and still feel the same. Only thing that changes is the way we have fun. Can't wait to get out in my Kubota and do the neighborhood. Typically plow our 450' driveway, 4 more adjacent to us that are longer, about 20 other driveways, a 1/4 mile of street and a mile or so of sidewalk along Lawyers road to Vienna. Hope your little man has a blast today!

Yup - agree. It's disappointing to see him posting again. Thought the beat down delivered yesterday from multiple fronts would have sunk in... Have never used the ignore option, but there's a first time for everything.

If the first BECS stays a BECS along with the second one on the 23rd, would the lull between the two BECS be "The Parting of the BECS" - all we need is someone to play Charlton Heston with a staff...

If this were to really play out as illustrated on the NAM, suggest it would be a hands down BECS. Can barely read the posts as fast as they are coming in. If the NAM nails this, it will have dethroned king EURO.

24/21 - Nice rise in dp from when I went to bed. Hats off to all those who stayed up so those mere mortal weenie wannabes like me could get some sleep, wake up and quickly read about getting named overnight and new additions to webster's dictionary of meteorology terms "according to Jeb"

A "positive reverse bust" - I think.... hope..... pray... that is a 4 letter word that starts with B and ends in M?

WWA just extended up into lower PA...

27/16. Just went outside with my long time damaged/broken/disjointed finger/weather monitor - the digit started tingling immediately - yup, it's gonna snow.

Since I lived in India for 3 years I have to ask, that's not really from India, is it? Some of their indigenous beers are some of the worse to ever be called "beer". Rosy Pelican and Black Label were two especially formidable tonics to try to keep down. Must have been the formaldehyde they used as a preservative at the time - and perhaps still do. Here's an image of the label for Rosy. My regrets if this taints the current atmospherics... https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Indian+beer+rosy+pelican&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beerlabels.es%2Flabel%2Fbig_8918_escanear0023-jpg.jpg#id=0&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beerlabels.es%2Flabel%2Fbig_8918_escanear0023-jpg.jpg&action=click

Haha - "Dazed and Confused", "DireMaker", or perhaps "The Song Remains the Same" (all relative to the Deb from Arlington...)

How long has it been since we had 4 topics all simultaneously flagged as "Hot" on the forum? Jan 2016? Even better than a quadruple double in the NBA, but of course there's a lot of things better than the best from the NBA. With the newbie 8-10d BECS threat in the LR, we may have a 5th added to the Hot list soon. Have we ever had two separate threats in storm mode simultaneously?

Have to guess some of that 40+ in upstate NY is LES. However, at the BN temps forecast, it won't take long for the GLs to freeze over, which of course cuts their source. MO looks to be in a bullseye too. With the defined cutoff between the haves and have nots, looks to be a heck of a boundary that's gone setup.

Please don't tease us like that - just downright nasty!

Front just came through with big gust of wind and precip, that started as pea size hail. Strange. NO rain to start off the precip. Only hail for about 2 mins then transitioned to downpour.

Pleaseeee read more and post less (as in none or only in banter). Your clouding up the great thoughts and logic flow of those who's opinions the board really cares about.

If only we had the option to Veto something when we vote. Oh wait, I guess a vote placed is in essence a veto too, yes?

You get my vote H2O. Oh wait, the mention of "vote" could be construed as having political connotations.... But seriously, I fully agree.

They said this is the worse loss in Saban's career. His previous worse loss was by 14 - in his career. Expected it to be much closer than this, even after the opening interception for a touchdown. Somewhere in the 2nd quarter you could see the look in the Bama players eyes - "uh ok, we're in trouble" and Clemson just poured it on.

Thought I was the only one that did that. As in about an hour ago, only to come back and see 4 pages +....

Unbelievable end to Bears Philly game - FGA to win hit the goal post and then crossbar and didn't go through. UFB.... poor kicker for the Chicago is the proverbial Charlie Brown goat... Edit - just read the other comments about the game from a few hours ago. Thought I was watching it live. Guess it was recorded from earlier. God I'm getting old....