coastalplainsnowman

I have family up in NWNJ who probably get similar snowfall outcomes to you on storms that get too close for comfort..During that 80s early 90s stretch as kids I always knew that every big winter storm would bring them tons of fun and snow and sleet to rain and school for me. Wow did I hate that.

Sign of the times emerging from the snow drought of the 80s, I remember WINS talking about this storm days out saying that a FOOT could fall. As we know, N&W were crushed, and LI was changed over just as it was getting fun, even as Al Roker then on local NBC still had maps up talking about feet of snow for most - I'll never forget that. But thinking back at the way everyone was talking about a FOOT as if a FOOT was cataclysmic reflected the lack of real snow for the better part of the decade leading up to it. It's been a little while since our great run of blizzards here, but when I hear a foot now I still think 'ho-hum, not impressed', whereas in the late 80s seeing LI painted in 3-6 felt like Christmas eve.

93-94 was awesome for many reasons. First, the cold and the snowpack. Snowcover seemed to last forever that year. As you said, there was a winter event or two every week. One week in February we were in the middle of an 8 inch storm on a Tuesday while the radio was talking about another one coming that Friday. Fresh snowpack on top of frozen old snowpack. Cold as far as the eye could see on the long range forecasts on TV. Colleges on LI that hadn't cancelled a day in 18 years cancelling school. And this wasn't in the middle of a run of snowy winters. The big storm of any consequence was 11 years prior (Blizzard of 93 was a changeover event for most of us on LI), and during a time where I believe only one or two 10" storms had occurred in the previous decade. To me not 95/96 with its crazy snow totals on LI and snowfalls into April, nor any of the winters with seemingly annual record breaking blizzards top 93/94, which felt arctic for months on end.

For Nassau/Suffolk, TWC has practically 0 for LI other than <1 in northern third of Nassau, with a sliver of 1-3 right along the north shore.

Is the cold end of November / start of December still expected? I'm not seeing BN temps in the forecasts that joe sixpacks like me look at (CPC 8-14 day, accuweather, etc.) I know, inadviseable, but if there was consensus am thinking it would show up there too. Is the consensus back to expecting the usual slightly to moderately AN for the foreseeable future again? Looking at long range commercial forecasts (I know, I know) they've been promising BN three weeks out for the last month or so.

Just curious for anyone who might know - the repeated references to 'city smoke' are interesting. Is that what we now would call smog? How would that be recorded today?

Agreed. Been to Ohio now and then, and in late June at 9:40 PM I'd say the sky looks like it does here at 8:50 PM. Haven't been there in early January, but it must be tough getting out of bed there before 8.

Watching TWC just now, Paul Goodloe and another on air person I don't recognize are doing a segment called 'car wash', apparently talking about whether the weather in select cities is good for car washing. The song 'Car Wash' is playing, and they are both dancing while doing the segment. It was probably only three minutes, but felt like 3 hours. I'm sure that if either is a meteorologist, they were thinking 'this is not what I had in mind.'