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    E PA/NJ/DE Spring 2026 Obs/Discussion

    in Philadelphia Region

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    10 hours ago, Albedoman said:

    wait until you see the prices of local wines this fall- then you will wonder why the media has not said jack. This guy below is the expert and I spoke to him this morning as I  just approved his new sign for his recent expansion of his winery as the Lowhill Township manager/zoning officer.  I trust him over anyone in this country. He told me he lost 80-90% of his grape production. He is an expert meterologist too. 

    https://www.weathertrends360.com/Company    https://www.weatheredvineyards.com/

    As long as it doesn't affect beer, whiskey or vodka prices, I'm in pretty good shape.... 

    61F

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    E PA/NJ/DE Spring 2026 Obs/Discussion

    in Philadelphia Region

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    44 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said:

    No, there have been freezes in May before. At PHL, the record is May 11, 1966. Much of this area had a freeze on May 9, 2020.

    Even as far south as North Carolina, there was a freeze on April 19-22, 1983 (this was also the latest snow in our area): apr_19-22_1983_nc_minimum_temperatures.p

     

    Don't try to tell me that a few weeks ago was a 'record latest freeze'. There have been freezes later than that. I just showed 1966, 1983, and 2020 (there are probably more examples).

    Exactly. This year last freeze/frost is not that much different than in the past. If so, only by a little. No need to think fruit crops are in serious jeopardy.

    RedSky is turning into drought guy thinking the world will end if we're off by a little from average. Calm down and have some wine. Oh wait, you can't, the grape vines are destroyed from the freeze! May God help us.... 

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    E PA/NJ/DE Spring 2026 Obs/Discussion

    in Philadelphia Region

    Posted

    1 hour ago, RedSky said:

    It was a record late freeze in many areas

    By a week or so? And the fruit world would be catastrophically destroyed this season?

    Drought guy said the freeze was 2 weeks ago which is around mid April. Doesn't sound super late?

    I think things will be just fine...perhaps a record setting over abundance.

    57F, heading to the 40s. 

    E PA/NJ/DE Spring 2026 Obs/Discussion

    in Philadelphia Region

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Albedoman said:

    to all. Many of you do not realize the extent of the real ahrd freeze about two weeks ago.  Many fruit trees and vineyards  have been decimated. 0-10 % of the normal fruit harvest from our region alone. All new growers are finished before they even started for this year. All  3 vineyards in Lowhill Township area lost this years grape growing season.  The grapes will likley come from non-PA growers to make wine this year if they want to bottle wine.  The media has turned a blind eye to this issue- believe me --as they are too damn worried about social issues than the number one economic driver in PA- food production. Its a real shame as many people will lose their jobs and still the politicians say absolutley nothing. N0 PA apples, peaches, plums, grapes, strawberries, bluberries and nectarines at the farmers markets.  Personally even when covered , my beans  received 80% damage. More needs tobdiscussed as I feel PA politicians should be asking for federal disater relief for this. It was hardwinter to boot and many municplaities are hurting based on local road conditions too. Time to discuss these issues rather than baseball and sports issues as they relate to weather patterns

    Isn't this around normal (last freeze) around these parts? What makes this year especially bad?

    AI Overview
    The average last spring freeze (32°F) in Philadelphia usually occurs between late March and mid-April, with central city areas often seeing their last frost around April 4th–5th and suburban or outlying areas frequently experiencing frost as late as April 15th–20th. A safe, conservative date to avoid damage to sensitive plants is often considered mid-May. 
    The Old Farmer’s Almanac +4
    • Average Last Frost Dates:
      • Central Philadelphia/Franklin Institute: ~April 4-5
      • Suburban/Higher Elevation: ~April 15-20
      • Risk Period: A 30% chance of frost remains up until April 25 in some areas.

     

    Philly Area Banter

    in Philadelphia Region

    Posted

    1 hour ago, The Iceman said:

    They paid more to go from 23 to 20 than the Chiefs did to go from 9 to 6… it was a significant overpay but Pitt was gonna draft lemon and cowboys had us over a barrel. 
     

    overall love their draft, they should hopefully get 3 offensive starters in the future out of it and the QB should be a fun gadget player like Taysom Hill. Love the tackle they took, between him and the guy they took last year, I think one could be the Lane replacement. Still think we need more depth in the interior oline and safety. Getting a guy like Greenard for 2 3rds was a steal, he’s going to he feast here with our interior dline taking the double teams. 

    Not quite. Cheifs traded picks 78 and 148, Birds traded 114 and 137. All and all, I like what Howie did there. With Brown leaving and Hurts is in his prime you have to give him every possible tool. And I agree picking up Greenard was a good move and yes he should have a field day out there for the reason you mentioned... 

    Philly Area Banter

    in Philadelphia Region

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    On 4/24/2026 at 9:24 AM, The Iceman said:

    Love the pick hate the cost

    Maybe a little steep but it wasn't a deep draft and 2 4th rounders...meh,  I was ok w/it. 

    I don't know exactly how they calculate "points" but it seems like a even trade...

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    E PA/NJ/DE Spring 2026 Obs/Discussion

    in Philadelphia Region

    Posted

    15 hours ago, RedSky said:

    25F for the morning low

    Sleet in Philly, cold weekend coming cold wave after cold wave lined up

    GFS has highs in the 40's to only near 50 for much of the first week of May, normal high for May 1st is what near 70F

    What is going on

     

    I don't care but let's hope it last. Weekend still looks great so all systems go as far as I'm concerned...

    58F/Sun breaking out little by little

    Philly Area Banter

    in Philadelphia Region

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, Mikeymac5306 said:

    Boston still gonna win the series, but happy to see the Sixers come back strong for game 2.

     

    Flyers look unbelievable against the Pens! 

     

      

    Celts were 14pt favorites for gm2 so quite a shock in gambling land.

    Flyers tonight...

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    E PA/NJ/DE Spring 2026 Obs/Discussion

    in Philadelphia Region

    Posted

    Anyone who received sleet/graupel today and consider it an event should contact ChescoWx immediately so he can update and upload his 1300+ spreadsheets across 18 servers worldwide. Unfortunately I was hung out to dry and did not have a event....

    48F

    Probably last freeze tonight, forecast low 29F

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