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    What's your ideal snowstorm?

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    Here's a series of questions to gauge preferences.  Thought about just putting this in poll format, but doing it this way encourages more discussion.

    Do you prefer.....

     

    A snowstorm in winter or something out of season?  If it's the latter, early or late?  

    In season

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    Wet snow, dry/fluffy snow, or something in between?

    No preference. 

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    Light/calm winds, or windy conditions while it's snowing?  

    Windy!

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    Continuous snow, or do lulls not matter as long as amounts end up as expected?

    Continuous

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    12" in 12 hours, or 18" occurring over 36 hours?

    18" of fluff over 36 hours or 12" of cement in 12 hours

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    Bitter temperatures, or just cold enough to stick well during the storm?

    Bitter!

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    Storms on holidays/your birthday/some other meaningful day, or are dates irrelevant?

    Meh, anytime is fine.

    On 9/23/2022 at 3:33 PM, Hoosier said:

    If living in a lake effect area, would you rather have a synoptic or lake effect storm of the same amount?

    N/A

    I want to keep the snow and build some snowpack.  Melting right after is awful. 

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    June 13 Severe Event

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted 

    Mesoscale Discussion 1143
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   1229 PM CDT Mon Jun 13 2022

   Areas affected...East-Central IL...Central/Southern IN...Southwest
   OH...Northern KY

   Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely 

   Valid 131729Z - 131930Z

   Probability of Watch Issuance...80 percent

   SUMMARY...Strong to severe thunderstorms capable of large hail and
   damaging  wind gusts may develop over the next few hours. Potential
   exists for the development of a convective line capable of strong
   wind gusts.

   DISCUSSION...Recent surface observations across the Lower/Mid OH
   Valley sampled a very moist air mass, with dewpoints in the upper
   70s/low 80s. Surface temperatures across this region have reached
   the low 90s. These low-level thermodynamic conditions beneath steep
   mid-level lapse rates is contributing to extreme instability. Recent
   mesoanalysis estimates MLCAPE over 5000 J/kg and recent RAP
   soundings show a surface-based LI of -13 to -14 deg C. Mesoanalysis
   also indicates convective inhibition has eroded across much of the
   region, despite very warm low to mid-level temperatures.

   An area of deeper cumulus has developed just northeast of the
   strongest buoyancy, in the open warm sector well southwest of the
   warm front. Mesoanalysis reveals this cumulus is within an area of
   modest moisture convergence likely resultant from a subtle wind
   shift. Lighting has also been noted within this region during the
   last half hour. Given the thermodynamic conditions, very strong
   updrafts/downdrafts are possible. Moderate vertical shear is also in
   place, suggesting storm organization is possible. 

   Evolution of this development is still uncertain, owing to the weak
   large-scale forcing for ascent and warm low to mid-level
   temperatures. However, the overall pattern and presence of extreme
   buoyancy suggest the potential exists for the development of a
   well-organized convective line. Most likely corridor for progression
   of this line would be across central/southern IN and into southwest
   OH and adjacent northern KY.

   ..Mosier/Guyer.. 06/13/2022

   ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

   ATTN...WFO...ILN...LMK...IWX...IND...LOT...ILX...

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    2022 Short/Medium Range Severe Weather Discussion

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted

    On 5/1/2022 at 12:01 AM, Hoosier said:

    That Oak Brook storm is now listed as tornado in the LSR.

    Edit:  apparently already surveyed.  EF-0 with a path length just under 2 miles long.  

    Also had a 2nd EF-0 tornado in the LOT cwa.

    I was at Credit Union 1 Arena Saturday for a 3 1/2 hour marathon of Rush University's Commencement which began at 2 PM.  The ceremony went continued after the warning but when it was over, I turn around from photographing the hooding portion to find an almost empty arena.  Pretty crazy to see that.  By the time I packed up, the sun was out.  I drove home in between the storms but was treated to a crazy light show almost the whole way after a dinner stop in Merrillville.  

    Feb 1-3rd GHD III Part 3

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted

    6 hours ago, Jackstraw said:

    00Z Euro not looking good from a suppression standpoint.  Repeating my mantra "I know my climo, there's nothing I can do about my climo, I accept my climo".  If I need to head SE and get some real Cincinnati chili, not that fake skyline crap, to see more snow I will lol.

    Rain for wave one, a miss south for wave two.  Sigh.  It wouldn't be as bad had the model not hinted at something near historic for days.   When does spring start again? 

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    Feb 1-3rd GHD III Part 3

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted

    KOKK Kokomo airport been reporting -SN for a couple hours now.  Temps here have been a steady 35 for the last 6 hours after dropping from 48 around 2am.  Kinda stalled at the moment. Per meso that weak shortwave traversing far southern IN/OH river seems to have pumped a bit of a pesky warm nose up through SE/EC IN.  Hopefully as it passes NE the next hour or 2 we can start to transition.  Think I'm going to need at least 3 or 4 inches from this first part to get above 12.  Anything less than 12 is a bit of a disappointment.default_hotdog.gif



    I done disagree. So much rain and lost potential. We have switched over and it is coming down hard. I tossed us a live stream before going home for the day.

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    Feb 1 -3 GHD III

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted

    5 hours ago, KokomoWX said:


    This memory makes me think I'd rather be in Chicago vs Indy for next week.

    Prolific. :arrowhead:

    Edit" This has turned into a slower, less amped solution that spreads a lot of wealth.  It doesn't suck as bad as I expected.

    Feb 1 -3 GHD III

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted

    GHD I was expected to be a monster for the LAF-OKK crew. Instead a last minute sleet storm happened and Chicago got a historic snowstorm. Here are a few maps and images I have from leading up to that event.  You can see the bullseye was everything we dreamed. Long live the DGEX.  (I forget who used to run a private high resolution weather model for our area.)

    This memory makes me think I'd rather be in Chicago vs Indy for next week.

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    12zGFS-SNOW-OMG.gif

    18z NAM - DGEX.gif

    DGEX_PORN.gif

    EAM-SNOW.jpg

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    Feb 1 -3 GHD III

    in Lakes/Ohio Valley

    Posted

    4 hours ago, zinski1990 said:

    Idk. Maybe it's finally my time lol. Still not getting hopes up til maybe Monday. It doesn't feel real in Indy 

    It would be crazy to think we could make up a seasonal deficit with one storm this late in season.  I will say the previous GHD monster storms yanked the rug out from us last minute.  While 6" of sleet was nothing to sneeze at, it was a far cry from feet of snow that was expected.  Pinging sounds are bad memories.

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