codfishsnowman

in nyc forum they said it nailed the late feb retro storm in 2010 down there.....it has these random victories but its just has so many wild swings

western central mass and northern ct is a HUGE part of sne and i have not heard any good news recently.....i will melt like butter in a hot skillet if ll these hours of model watching is for six to ten inches.....i thought the 20 to 30 plus inch amounts were high back here but the 10 to 18 i was going with may now be headed towards jeopardy....i cant handle a jan 05 repeat or a boxing day repeat

one more...for spfd in my time here

feb 06 with 16-17 inches where I am but just a few miles west/north while still in city limits only half that much.....glad I was just on the edge for that as I did see 3 inch/hr rates briefly and brief thundersnow...I will never forget when I went to work down town later that night and they had eight or nine inches at best just 2.5 miles away. The next morning I went to East Longmeadow and measured nearly 18 inches otg so they probably had close to 20 just a little over a mile from where I was in south forest park

for my time in the springfield mass area, flurries this morning have me daydreaming again...........

def the winter of 10-11 that thirty or so day span with over 50 inches of snow...really every bit as good as 95-96 and with better retention

had everything:

consecutive snowfalls with just enough sleet and refreezing to slow down sublimation/compaction and consistent cold weather

at least one snowfall of 18 inches or better

a couple inches of snow with arctic overriding and temps in the single digits

15 inches or greater depth for nearly thirty days

greatest depth I have ever witnessed 30 inches morning of feb 2nd

snowtober...the death band around or just after midnight with rates that had to be at least briefly 3 inches/hr and a peak depth of at least a foot!  the tree loss and no power for over a week does tend to cast a shadow over it however

feb13............it took FOREVER since the first flakes started flying just after 9am but the period of 9pm to 2am with nearly 18 inches falling and at times near zero in mostly falling snow, rates probably at times approaching or exceeding at least briefly 4 inches/hr...total storm accumulation just under or at two feet, 21 inch avg depth...epic for this area anyways...and truth be told that big amount in the five hrs was as the death band was starting to decay...

While we are posting videos, let me share some crazy but little known Tuscaloosa videos.

Crazy close..

Almost direct hit here, and contains some of the best tornado roar audio iv'e heard

And this is the Hackleburg/ Phil Campbell tornado as it hit Harvest. This may be the scariest sky I have ever seen in a tornado video.

The last video in this post is the kind of "end of the world type stuff" I am talking about. Looks similar to Joplin Mo....just sick!

Compare that to areas like the Oklahoma City, Birmingham/Tuscaloosa and Little Rock metros and it doesn't seem like a lot, although what matters is that Joplin got the big one just like Birmingham and OKC have gotten...

Birmingham/Tuscaloosa...havent they had like multiple f4s and f5s over the years?? Dixie seems just as dangerous as Tornado Alley in the middle of the country imo.

In fact I think in one of those major cities there was a small overlap from major tornadoes last year and the year before where for a couple blocks an area that was just starting to get back on its feet from a 2010 storm got wiped out again last year. That is just insane!!

I hope the insurance companies work well with folks out there.

And another thing that really is upsetting: Homes not being able to have basements like in Joplin bc of high water table and Joplin is in a sweet spot for tornadoes, seems like going forward there has to be a way around this, engineers must be able to come up with something. Will insurance companies going forward pay for houses to have storm shelters built on the properties??

Jeff has been storm chasing for like 35 years. On his Joplin DVD, it shows them following the parent supercell across KS into MO (which was north of Joplin) and it was pretty ragged and not producing much so they went farther south. They also followed just behind the tornado until they couldn't go any farther due to damage, it was then they pulled down Iowa street and started search and rescue.

On the vid, they black part of it out when he is pulling someone from a house, and there's another part where a lady comes and tells him that 'there's a dead man over there'. He tells her he knows and that there's nothing they can do for him, they just have to help the survivors. He was also making phone calls to the Tulsa NWS to tell them to relay information and get as much help to Joplin as possible. When help doesn't arrive, they go and look for help and find a Carthage Fire Department truck down the road, and they bring them back down that street to start search and rescue farther down the block.

Despite it being 11 months since the tornado I still remember it like it was yesterday.

The HRRR did really well on this day. It doesn't always get things right though. I remember I was looking at it before the tornado and saw that it was developing additional storms across SE KS, NE OK. I thought at the time, these storms would interefere with the big main supercell so I expected a 'cluster' of thunderstorms with high winds, hail and heavy rain. I actually felt a bit better when I saw those additional cells developing on the HRRR. Nothing really different from what we get all the time anyway. I went outside and started moving some of the lawn ornaments and stuff up closer to the house so they wouldn't blow away or get damaged. I never really expected the tornado though. In fact, just 10 days earlier on May 12th there was a storm that showed signs of rotation just west of here. I actually saw it but it was elevated and it had the look of a mesocyclone that was collapsing. It didn't produce anything as it moved to basically the NW of Joplin.

I did notice one thing that did freak me out though on the HRRR other than the crazy helicity, both the LFC and LCL height was the same and it was very low in a very localized area along I-44 from Joplin on a bit northeast. This meant that pretty much any storm would be surface based and low to the ground.

Once the parent supercell that had been in SE KS produced an outflow boundary, and the new strong updrafts in NE OK/SE KS latched on, Joplin's goose was cooked.

So some good signs were on the HRRR but not the whole package I assume. The other thing I have noticed is that sig. tornadoes have affected some portion of the Joplin metro area not only in 2011 but also in 2003 and in 1971. Three times in forty years sure seems like an awful lot. I would imagine there have been numerous other funnel clouds and a few F0s in the mix as well over the years.

Jeff Piotrowskii's video and the aftermath as the pulled up at 20th and Iowa. The new footage begins at 3:50 or so. Not sure why there's a slowdown. At around 4:40 you see the remains of Franklin Tech.

No matter how many times I watch this video I get chills up and down my spine!

This is about as frightening as anything I have ever watched on recorded media, whatever anyone wants to say about whether he had the right terminology or anything else ( some of the posts on here seem unbelievably petty!)

This guy took an AMAZING video and he deserves serious credit for watching the weather closely and knowing almost four hours earlier that this was going to be the hot zone. Furthermore he went right down to the area where the big tornado was imminent and he knew that as well, he really deserves major accolades.

In my neck of the woods most of the experts love to beat up on the HRRR model but the fact that this model had the extreme helicity over sw Mo. is also noteworthy and something Tornado experts should be studying in detail.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

National Weather Service Taunton MA

846 AM EST Sun Jan 23 2005

The blizzard of 2005 is now in progress across parts of coastal Southern New England, as those in Massachusetts and Rhode Island endure a storm comparable to the blizzard of 78.

This storm is now blasting Eastern Massachusetts, northeast Connecticut and Rhode Island in all its fury with whiteout conditions, temperatures plummeting into the single numbers and teens, northeast to north winds of 50 to 70 mph creating drifts to at least 6 feet, in exposed areas.

Travel is not recommended until sometime late today or tomorrow, to give crews which in some cases May have stopped clearing roads for safety reasons, an opportunity to clear roads later today when the storm starts moving away.

The storm at 8 AM was still located about 50 miles east southeast of Nantucket and will end up dumping about 16 to 24 inches of snow in the Connecticut River Valley, 20 to 30 inches from Manchester and Nashua New Hampshire through Worcester and Rhode Island. The jackpot will be Eastern Massachusetts where 28 to 38 inch amounts will be common.

Nantucket Will end up with less snow because of its warmer conditions and closer proximity to the storm center but blizzard conditions will arrive there this morning.

This is likely to be a record setting snowstorm in Boston when comparing against data, dating back to 1892. For Providence this should be a top 3 snow event. The 7 AM reports of 17.8 inches at providences TF Green airport and 19.8 inches at Bostons Logan airport makes this the 6th worst snowstorm in Southeastern New England Interstate 95 history dating back to at least 1905, and heading for at least top 3 ranking by days end.

Blizzard or near blizzard conditions will occur along the coast and high terrain this morning and then gradually recede to only the immediate coast during the afternoon.

This is a potentially life threatening situation for those who venture out during the height of the storm this morning.

Again, travel is not recommended until late today.

If you leave the safety of being indoors, you are putting your life at risk.

There was no 16 to 24 in the ct river valley...more like 8 to 12 with lollies to 15. The rest of it was right on and much of what fell in the ct river valley (6 to 8 inches of it) was from the clipper type part of the storm. Only a few inches deform fell with the bombing coastal. The real show was central and eastern and southern areas although I am not sure if se ct was screwed on this storm too. For the record I had one foot in Northampton Mass where I was living at the time.

A little chunk of a BOX disco I saved from the Jan 2005 storm. This storm by far to this date was most memorable for me for so many reasons. I guess first and foremost it went down on my birthday. I remember I was running indoor track at the time for Scituate High and we had our State relay meet that day (Saturday) at the Reggie Lewis Center in Boston, it was one of the wilder bus rides home to Scituate you would ever have lol the storm had just started as we left, but it did not take long for conditions to go downhill! Then that night and the following day I was out plowing snow taking it all in, jus in awwwww. We have had some storms since then, but I don't think I have seen anything top this as far as snow is concerned in my back yard since this storm. I just also remember how damn cold it was! If this winter were to fall flat on its face but we had a storm like this in my mind it would be ok, it is the type of storm that makes a winter! That winter as a whole though was just a great one here on the South Shore!