Brian D

Merry Christmas n a Happy Holiday to all. Light frz rn mixed with some snow forecast for later today with some snow along the border. Untreated surfaces will be slick.

Did my boot camp in 1987 in Ft Sill, OK in the middle of summer. That was nasty! Then another 2 months there for more training in Jan-Feb 1990. Wild wx there with highs in the 80's down to 10's after a blue norther, and 6" of slush snow. And in 1990 spent 2 months (Oct-Nov) over in Albuquerque helping with some testing at Kirkland AFB. Never seen so many tumbleweeds, and absolutely dry wx for weeks. 10% humidity many days. One of the guys had a friend over in Dallas, so we spent Thanksgiving with him, and his family. Was glad to have experienced a different part of our country that is so much different than up N.

Decent call here for the pattern. Nothing to disrupt Christmas travel too much. Some wet wx in the S sub on Wed, and a LP moving in from the W will bring some sloppy wx on Thurs eve in to Friday. Merry Christmas ev1! Hope your holiday's are blessed

Christmas Day eve into Friday may be a wet snow, icy system for N MN - N WI (& UP MI). Looks like I did a decent job with the Holiday forecast in sniffing out the pattern.

Christmas Day may be a LES or lake enhancement with synoptic snows across NE MN. Looks like a possible def zone between HP n LP setting up. A long fetch from the ENE across the Lake usually gives something, especially with a boundary hanging out.

0.4" of snow from the clipper. Now this morning winds are kicking up into the 30's blowing snow around. Temps were in the mid 20's and in just a half hour dropped to mid teens. Cold day on tap.

0.5" IMBY of snow after a rainy day yesterday, and bitter temps this morning under clear, blue skies n fairly calm winds. -sd's near the Lake with -10's/-20's across inland NE MN. I-Fall's dropped 56dF in 26hrs from 34 to -22.

TBH, science is almost always corrupted by money n politics to some degree. Going to have to leave it there.

Rain showers this morning making things nice, and sloppy(and a bit icy on untreated surfaces). High wind watch along the shore later today for potential gusts to 60 mph.

S trend would be nice. LP will track right over me at this point.

Is 6-9" a big snow? The upper end of that is getting there. Maybe we need a woman's perspective on this??

Pretty much lighter snows, and gusty winds for the foreseeable future. Might get lucky with some lake enhancement/LES. Temps will be a rollercoaster ride.

Lansing has records back in the 1860's which had some very cold winters. So I looked at how this year compared. Impressive to be sure. 15.63 1868-12-01 1868-12-15 1 1 1 0 16.93 1867-12-01 1867-12-15 2 2 2 0 17.20 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 3 3 3 0 17.20 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 3 3 4 0 17.33 1895-12-01 1895-12-15 5 4 5 0 17.53 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 6 5 6 0 18.47 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 7 6 7 0 18.70 1904-12-01 1904-12-15 8 7 8 0 19.33 1989-12-01 1989-12-15 9 8 9 0 19.43 1864-12-01 1864-12-15 10 9 10 0 19.77 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 11 10 11 0 19.90 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 12 11 12 0 Here's what MRCC has for Detroit 19.57 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 1 1 1 0 20.03 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 2 2 2 0 21.30 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 3 3 3 0 21.37 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 4 4 4 0 22.07 1895-12-01 1895-12-15 5 5 5 0 22.10 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 6 6 6 0 22.30 1989-12-01 1989-12-15 7 7 7 0 22.63 1937-12-01 1937-12-15 8 8 8 0 22.90 2005-12-01 2005-12-15 9 9 9 0 22.97 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 10 10 10 0

10th coldest for Madison too. 6.30 1919-12-01 1919-12-15 1 1 1 0 7.77 1972-12-01 1972-12-15 2 2 2 0 9.50 1958-12-01 1958-12-15 3 3 3 0 10.03 1917-12-01 1917-12-15 4 4 4 0 11.07 1976-12-01 1976-12-15 5 5 5 0 12.80 1898-12-01 1898-12-15 6 6 6 0 13.33 1893-12-01 1893-12-15 7 7 7 0 14.13 1876-12-01 1876-12-15 8 8 8 0 14.63 1942-12-01 1942-12-15 9 9 9 0 14.97 2025-12-01 2025-12-15 10 10 10 0

Ice is generally new/thin which would be typical this time of year. The warmer temps with gusty winds this week will knock it back pretty good as much of the detected ice is lower in concentrations across the Lakes. With such a cold start this year, the potential exists for a higher ice year with larger areas of thicker ice. Something we need to help the natural ecosystem. It actually helps to knock back some invasive species.