Sophisticated Skeptic

Thanks....but wow, can't believe he'd use such irrelevant data for such a big speech.

how come Obama just said, in his little climate change speech that : "we've already driven carbon pollution levels down, to the lowest levels they've been in over 2 decades". what's he lookin at...

things being different 20 years ago to now : Every spring and summer : there'd be warm spells for 3 to 5 days ...followed a cold front (and thunderstorms) to cool things down for a few days...along with lower humidity. Things are just more erratic these days...across the whole globe. The observations by Weatherguy (or whatever his name is now) of weather currents slowing down is an interesting one. As the amount of training of storms , and slower moving bigger storms seems to be increasing. Bigger winter storms even. (for the snow geese out there) Even with the arctic, getting these very warm pushes at times aren't the norm.

the statistical part takes more importance over the opinionated aspect. Coming from the feds, it's obviously going to be dampened a bit to prevent hysteria. nothing new there.

lets see how the deniers spin it. all that ice melt (and increased ocean heat) has to unload somewhere.. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_WETTEST_MAY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-08-12-21-53

There are times when you need to throw out whatever your college professor has taught you over the years, and look at things full scope. Or whoever (or whatever) sources you allow yourself to be guided by. A site nobody's heard of before. I wonder if they've accepted donations over the years.

typical denier talk. It's ok, most here already know how the place operates..

chubbs, student, orh...there are way too many environmental variables to strain your brains on such nonsense equations. (without even mentioning space / solar / or even magnetic variables... Yeah, it temporarily makes you look like a rocket scientist to the public...but to no avail. How about record crests that frequently continue to be not only broken by a foot or so....but smashed by 10 feet or more. The weekend storms in Texas / Ok were just a sample.

The types and severity of them are..

3 things we could pretty much confirm are occurring , with no real known endgame : 1) Co2 increasing every year... ( I won't even go into the causes or future effects....since it'll automatically cause arguments / flame / spam ) 2) An enormous amount of more moisture in the environment over the years, due to more freshwater / icemelting every year. (arctic) Which is surely already to blame for massive flooding outbreaks all across the globe. 3) Clouds lowering, with no known explanation. Could also be contributing to massive amounts of rainfall in short periods of time. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=3285 and I didn't even mention the Methane / Aerosols ...

from 0 to 40 feet in 24 hours.. nothing to see here folks...everything's normal.

old trees with deep roots are hard to move as well.

good post , Polar Vortex 2014 . I've many times here called out the 'political' evidence of the deniers. It's very ez to see who is what.

Now I understand why they wanted to shut this section down in the past.. When will they get a clue. Hard to have a decent conversation...for sure.

nice job with your creative wording. I don't waste my time showing cards to people not worth the time...and that can't listen. Or live in another world, like everything's fine and dandy. (temps/ice) the other guys here already post the images of scientific significance that I normally would be. Maybe you missed my post yesterday...and yes, were currently falling off the cliff ice cover wise. But it's all ok and normal for 'the other side' . sounds like someone needs their pacifier again. The same thing you say to everyone that upsets you a touch. grow up.

lol. Looks like someone's been creeping this thread a bit too long....popping up out of the blue...with long ramblings speak for itself. Sounds pretty 2010'ish. We're over the past now and the evidence is overwhelming.

sounds ridiculous / anal-lytic / and borderline crazyhouse talk. Me and Weatherguy pretty much already expect to be banned , just because we talk the truth and generaly go against the grain here. And also knowing the way this place operates.. (ban happy...for anyone that disagrees with a guy that has a Mod / Met tag )

I'm guessing that discussing facts about global warming entitles us to a Troll tag. At the same time, it is a bit early to go gung ho on the warming. If things continue looking dire the next several months... then I could see it becoming more of a so-called troll-fest around here. (possibly) Seems like a lot are still hanging on the sidelines and unsure.

waiting for ORH_wxman to chime in, on the cooling aspect of things..

Good point, but what caused it. Right wing media swung on it the hardest...making it seem like climate change was a joke, and anybody who believes in it is nuts. Will be interesting in the years ahead to see how they change their attitudes on it being such a "joke". Just having the arctic melt more ice every year = guarantees more moisture and extreme flooding episodes worldwide...along with warmer oceans to assist ? foggettabouddit. And I didn't even mention the countless of other variables being discussed here by others. Co2 through the roof being 1. This could be the most interesting thread in history. Such fierce debates, while everybody's 'mostly' civil about it. I enjoy even the conversations that I don't agree with.

notice how I didn't use the "t" word. Our media likes to focus on these incidents as 1 or 2 bad groups out there. When a lot of times it's more about the needs of the community. There's probably a lot of communities in Iraq that assist and make things easier for ISIS to take over their towns...knowing they'll get more aid from them...then their own government. Just look at how easy it was for ISIS to take all our military equipment over..that was stationed there...it basically had no protection (and no money to protect) from the Iraqi government. As long as global economies continue to suffer, more of these types of rogue groups will probably continue to grow and flourish. (and many of them, not even "T" groups....even though our Gov might still decide to label them as such) One of the rare instances where loose gun laws are good for the country....groups would think twice before doing silly crap like that here in the u.s. Where many homeowners have guns...where as almost none do in strict gun law countries...and are ez pickins for these 'rogue' groups. back to topic...climate - http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CALIFORNIA_STORM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-15-16-12-17 "Rare spring storm sweeps into southern California, Arizona" ] global warming already here? more convincing if they get rains in the summer. The Cali mountains could get some nice amounts the next week or so.

I think it'll be at-least part of it. technology (taking jobs) / climate change / pollution / overcrowding (population) / diseases / worldwide crisis's of different sorts will have a bigger hand. Bad economies across the globe (currently) are another reason why governments in other countries don't have enough money to protect their own people....and how 'rogue' groups pop-up and control parts of a country with their own weapons and money. When the public is desperate for food / water / money...they go where it's at. as for people panicking over technology taking all our jobs... there will always be jobs that require human involvement / interaction. Currently software creation / mobile app development are good areas to get into.

Republicans slander things everyday to favor their agenda's. Their saying the reason they cut amtrack funding (a day after that fatal accident) was to implement another tax deduction for the rich. Believing in global warming, is bad for the rich. thus, the reason why most Republicans don't believe in it. Not that I favor mixing politics in with global warming...it's just the truth.

^ there are too many variables in climate change to jump from 1 image to the next. you guys can 'slander' your reasonings with an image or 2 that favor the 'factual' data to be on your side....and so can we. But as time goes by, the evidence is becoming overwhelming. Yet, you continue holding on to the smallest bit of hope that everythings normal.. (when it's not even close) I'm just wondering at what point will u guys give in.

he's fine....just needs a break. chill..