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36 minutes ago, StormChaser4Life said:
Another one bites the dust. Lol. Seems like the trend lately is to look good in the long range and start the downward spiral in the medium range. I'm more interested now in this storm next week but given how trends been lately not getting my hopes up
I feel like this has been going on for 4 years
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7 hours ago, snowstormcanuck said:
I sort of recall that one (It was Easter weekend, right?). Decent icing down here too, but nothing of that magnitude.
Line 86 really separated the high ice accretion to almost nothing. I drove up to dufferin county that night to be at ground zero and went from just a glaze in Waterloo to widespread outages and trees down starting at elmira. Seeing fergus at 10pm or so was an experience. Someone on twitter said the town looked like an EF2 tornado had hit and they were right.
I got stuck on a county road off 109 and got help by an OPP officer. After that, I spent the night in grand valley and it was wicked. Continuous crashing all night from trees breaking. The next day was an icy winter wonderland. Would have been a catastrophic ice storm if it got down to kw/guelph/west GTA.
There was almost no wind so damage was minimal. Though, when you drive from belwood lake to orangeville ,especially now with no leaf cover, all the trees are bent and drooping.
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4 hours ago, snowstormcanuck said:
A once in 100 year storm? Yeah, pretty unlikely.
March 2016 wont be remembered compared to how widespread Dec 2013 was, but we had up to 2" of ice around orangeville. It was phenomenal to witness
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2 hours ago, snowstormcanuck said:
Per typical, it's going to come down to s/w timing, strength, and interaction of streams. Colder solution of the models now because instead of allowing that lead northern stream s/w to slow, dig, and phase with the southern stream around 120, it sort of zips off to the east, allowing the baroclinic zone to sag south.
It wouldn't completely surprise me to see the models shift back to a warmer setup (with a neutral or + NAO/AO being progged), but we'll have to wait and see.
OSPC sent this today
"Heads up for Wednesday to Friday.. There is potential for a winter storm later Wednesday through Thursday and into Friday across Southern Ontario. There is a fair amount of uncertainty this far in advance. However many computer models are suggesting the possibility of significant amounts of freezing rain and snow. Stay tuned."
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8 hours ago, snowstormcanuck said:
YYZ storm total = 12.6"
Add the 4" that fell with the Sunday clipper and this is as close to a big daddy as we're going to get.
4.3" in Kitchener. No complaints from me. Nice little storm.
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EC met says 7" at Downsview
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Looks like 11.34" in KW. I was 10 and dont remember this storm.
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11 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:
Has anyone ever seen snow and a tornado in one day? That happened today here. Didn’t think it was possible.
November 23, 2013 we had an EF1 tornado with snowfall in eastern Ontario
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44 minutes ago, Torchageddon said:
If you were in K-W at the time it wasn't as bad I think south. One of the few references to it online when I checked years ago was from a Niagara ON weather site where the storm eventually reached. It was a gradual build up with lots of lightning and the heavy rain probably started shortly after and didn't end. It wasn't until 7:15 pm roughly that it became dangerously severe. We put our shoes on to prepare to go down into the basement as the winds were becoming ridiculously strong and the ferocity was something I've never seen before or since. That lasted a few minutes and then a general powerful storm continued. There were tons of tree branches everywhere, some large. I'm sure backbuilding occurred with lots of lightning past that.
I cant even imagine what that must have been like! That radar shot is wicked especially if that's 5 or so hours after it started. 2000 was a huge year for floods IIRC so not surprised by your accounts. I'll see what I can do about ordering some radar shots or loops but it wont be for a couple weeks. I'm really curious now!
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13 hours ago, Torchageddon said:
18 years ago right now I was experiencing the worst storm I've ever lived through. Fields became lakes, cars were being swept away in parking lots, 123 km/h wind gust reported in Mount Forest, every type of lightning except ball, 5 hours from 5:30 pm to 10:30 pm the storm continued. Extremely damaging straight line winds all over my region with spin-ups sprinkled in. Had to have used some amazing parameter potential locally with a multi-cluster configuration. Epic is an understatement. I'd love to have high-resolution radar and velocity data of it, and lightning maps. Nothing like that occurs anymore of course.
I was only 11 in 2000 and don't remember this. Was it hours long severe storms?
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Well good short on the tornado, Stebo. Thanks for the links!
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Joplin's sirens are only activated if part of Joplin is in the tornado warning polygon or a spotter or someone sees an actual tornado. It is a 3 minute activation. There is a discrepancy in the times that the sirens were going off in Joplin. I posted at 5:17 on here that the sirens were going off. The city says they were set off at 5:11 but I think I posted that as they were going off, and the second tornado warning was issued at 5:17. The city also says they set the sirens off a second time at 5:31. The National Weather Service says the tornado didn't touch down until 5:34, and as you can clearly see on Jeff Piotrowski's video, the tornado was crossing Schifferdecker street and was very large by the time the sirens started going off which would give an actual time of the second activation around 5:36-5:37.
I would rather the sirens be on constantly when a confirmed tornado is moving into the city because if they were activated for another 3 minutes at 5:36-5:37 then the tornado would have been near the high school when they shut off again which was roughly halfway through the city.
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I still don't understand how even after an extremely devastating blow to the city, and number of near misses over the last decade, Joplin won't be using multiple siren activations aside from another sounding 10 minutes after the warning is issued if a tornado is confirmed or something along those lines. Topeka has the same sirens as Joplin and they will sound here throughout the entire warning. On Apr 27 they went off at least 6-10 times or more, and that was just for a doppler indicated tornado. They also continued to blow them even after the warning expired. My landlord says she heard them on and off over 40 minutes. One three minute window to hear them outside is not enough...especially in a large city where greater numbers of people are always coming and going.
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For the record...over on page 50 I said EC's F5 rating for Elie, MB was suspicious. Just recently saw the video of the anchored house being torn off its foundation and thrown hundreds of feet as it explodes. Also saw photos of empty basements left where houses once were. There is surprisinly not a lot of damage photos and videos from that tornado. Sorry EC!
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No idea if this was posted, but it's from "Cedar Ridge" in Joplin and states it's as the tornado was forming.
There is so much rotation!
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Like this one taken by the apartment complexes on 20th.
He even says it. Right in the middle of the city and not a person or sign of life anywhere. I'd think people would be screaming and crawling out of debris assembling in the streets. It somewhat gives the illusion that "everyone is gone". Must have been absolutely hell.
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New video uploaded Feb 15th. This is over by the high school.This is similar to the gas station video. It does appear a gust front hits the area first before the tornado arrives and there is such a long duration of destruction.
THERE IS A LOT OF CUSSING ON HERE.... but.... wow.
The one thing I always find so eerie about these immediate aftermath videos...is there is never another person in sight.
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Still a 3 minute activation, however, if 10 minutes have passed between the last activation and the storm still has not arrived, they can blow them again for 3 minutes. They will also be able to activate them individually or in groups. They are going to start testing them individually on Feb 27th and silent testing will begin in the summer.
The solar panels are to charge the batteries if there is a loss of power.
Great news. Also, that sounds like they may be zoning them into areas that would go off if that area is in the warning polygon.
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Ok second try...Joplin's siren policy was changed tonight.
Fire Chief Mitch Randles said this which is what I've been saying all along:
"People hear the sirens during the testing and the other warnings and they get desensitized to those sirens. So what we're trying to do by limiting the number of testings is to limit the number of times people hear the sirens to only when they need to take cover."
Tests will be conducted on the first and third Mondays of the month instead of every week like they were before.
2 sirens will be replaced and 16 upgraded with mobile activation technology, solar panels, and silent testing technology.
No word on activating the sirens more than once for a tornado warning?
I wonder what the solar panels are used for. Probably not the siren batteries, but for the new equipment to power a reserve battery so the sirens can still be activated from the EMA if the power is out.
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This 'article' makes me want to stab a kitten. (that's a saying, I love kittens)
Did Global Warming Destroy My Hometown?
Last May, a massive tornado leveled Joplin, Missouri. Was it chance, or a warning of things to come?
Chance
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MSNBC posted the article over tornado tourism.
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Pictures of all the houses
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If any Canadians are reading this...CityTV Toronto is airing the EM: Home Edition Joplin two-parter at 7pm and 8pm EST. WKBW Buffalo is airing them at 8pm and 9pm EST. Both tomorrow Jan 13.
Check your local listings
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Had to be moving faster than the May '98 derecho to beat you at that
Hey, I was hit by that one!
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CNN's nonsense was even worse on the day of the April 27th outbreak and the aftermath, I don't even want to go there because it will piss me off, tbqh.
It was also terrible on the Japan earthquake, too, but I can barely remember the April 27 coverage except they kept reporting live from the same spot as if that one small area was the only devastated area in all of North America. It's the only major US network I get on cable. It feels like years prior they had exceptional event coverage but this year had been lackluster for the network.
February 23-25th Winter Storm
in Lakes/Ohio Valley
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The hotzone really seems to be from Stratford/KW north to Owen Sound east to Peterborough County and south to the northend of the GTA. Huron and Bruce County really seemed to have escaped the storm even though they were the original blizzard warning and areas east were added last night.
Absolutely wicked storm. I took a short drive to St. Jacob's last night and experienced ferocious whiteouts. Dufferin/Wellington County have been hit hard apparently OPP are coming from as far as Bracebridge with their snowmobiles to get to stranded people. Also heard there are snow drifts as high as 10 feet in those areas.