fujiwara79

14 minutes ago, kdxken said:

most of you only complain on the internet, but meekly comply and do nothing.

I thought January 6th was the violent overthrow of the government not a bunch of Yahoo's reading too much on the internet. Which is it?

not sure what jan 6th has to do with anything.  that was a bunch of boomers and qanon losers radicalized by an orange demagogue.

7 minutes ago, losetoa6 said:

Capitol tristate isn't a small business buddy. Up and down the east coast . And as of today there's no mask mandate at Depot . I was there . If Depot requires it in the future  then I'll go to Lowes ...if they do then I'll refuse to comply and they'll have to arrest me . So be  it . Time for Americans to push back and sorry to disappoint you but many are . There's millions of peeps like me who usually keep to themselves ( very little if any news watching, social media or political talk) who spend there time working hard,  taking care of their families, help  there neighbors etc ...who are rising up to push back on mandates / restrictions. It's happening whether you agree or not . 

you should organize and protest, then.  start that anti-mask revolution.  most of you only complain on the internet, but meekly comply and do nothing.  there have been far more protests in europe than here.  

i remember last year, people predicted that there would be a rebellion if applebees was closed for another two weeks.  americans would rise up and fight for their freedom to get a haircut!  never happened.  won't happen now either.

put that mask back on.

26 minutes ago, losetoa6 said:

Missed all the lovely posts today.   

Me and 2 other electrical sub contractors waited outside the local Capital Tristate (electrical supply) this morning at 630 am for it to open like we do many days and when the doors swung open the worker quickly said ( U NEED MASKS) to enter . I quickly said I guess Home Depot and Lowes  will get the business from me then ...call me when corporate changes back . The other 2 contractors weren't as civil lol. They cursed and said we aren't wearing no more effin masks . They also left Like I did . Americans are done  with this shit .I spend $35,000 to 45 K  there a year.  Enough small businesses like me push back on this Draconian BS it'll start to change their tune.

 

 

Home Depot just announced that they're requiring masks for customers.  put your mask on, snowflake.  also interesting that you'd rather enrich a mega-corp instead of a small biz, all because of a mask.

3 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said:

You aren't a doctor, you have no medical background, you are reading reports and attempting to 'treat' yourself. Not a good idea

B-b-b-but he has the Google Machine!  Thanks to google, laymen are now experts at everything.  Now we just treat doctors as middlemen that we rely on to write us prescriptions.   

On 8/3/2021 at 10:31 PM, PhineasC said:

How often do you leave your house? Serious question. You sound like a hermit guy I know who is really into lockdowns, mandates, and the like. He isn't even affected because he is always home. He has been "on lockdown" for like 25 years straight already. 2020 was like a dream year for him. He was finally the normal one.

Maybe we should be asking you this question.  You post non-stop 24/7 on this board.  I'm concerned you have no life.  Living off the grid in Randolph, NH can't be good for anyone's mental health.  

It wouldn't' surprise us if this was you in a few years:

https://apnews.com/article/River-Dave-New-Hampshire-Dave-Lidstone-e0ef2fb3349a23ceebaa9e244b97eb5a

10 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

But again, very few businesses have mandated vaccines yet. I don't think this is as widespread of an issue for Americans as the media paints it. Most Americans received the vaccine to protect themselves and are not trying to force others to get it. If this was a widespread concern, we would have seen businesses doing this all along since January.

About 70% of people support vax mandates, including about 50% of republicans (to my surprise).  that's probably why you saw republican politicians criticizing anti-vaxxers last week, and employers starting to mandate them recently.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/565641-poll-68-percent-support-vaccine-mandate

6 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said:

How many hours a day do you wear yours?

I don't wear a mask these days.  but that reminds me, i should get a set of KN95s for the winter!

I still find it hilarious how people thought masks were never coming back.  It was always the easiest thing to bring back.  i thought they'd come back in the fall, but this was even quicker than i expected.

the cdc guidance from may 13th will go down in infamy as one of the worst messaging blunders in history.  it'll be taught in schools decades from now as a case study in what you shouldn't do.

most non-influenza pandemics last 3-5 years...it'll be best for everyone's collective psyche to accept that reality.  maybe invest your Dogecoin in some innovative mask companies.

7 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

Dr. Sallis has been very frustrated by this. He believes that many lives would have been saved throughout the pandemic, had health authorities gotten the message out that something as simple as exercising greatly reduces the risk of getting severely ill from Covid.

LOL....60% of this country is overweight and they've been asked to lose weight for as long as I can remember.  Not gonna happen.  Goobermint can't tell them what to do.

On 7/29/2021 at 7:50 AM, Baroclinic Zone said:

Not true in the mRNA vaccines.  Efficacy still in the 90% realm after 6mo. 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2103916

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/04/pfizer-covid-vaccine-91-effective-least-6-months

 

Those papers are already outdated though.  I'm talking about recent data from Israel showing that people who were vaxxed in January only have 16% efficacy against symptomatic Covid.  If they were vaxxed in February, it was 47%; if it was in March, it was 67%, etc.  You get the picture - it clearly shows waning immunity after a certain period of time.  The good news is that protection against serious disease doesn't wane as rapidly; it is still about 80% for those vaxxed in January, but even that is a drop from 98% or whatever it was.  I do think waning immunity in the elderly (since they got the shots first) will be an issue going into the fall and winter.

the CDC has been very sketchy lately.  Apart from their ridiculous new mask guidance from back in May (which I can write a novel about as to why that made no sense), they stopped tracking breakthrough infections, so we have to rely on data from Israel, Singapore, Iceland, UK, etc to understand how variants and time affect efficacy.  They also didn't declare delta a variant of concern until a full month after the rest of the world did.  Very odd.  That's why I think some chamber of commerce lobbying money was involved.  

Just now, radarman said:

 

Please post the evidence that vaccines are performing better than natural immunity.  

I never compared the two; I said natural immunity is clearly not lifelong.  Not even close.  But that is what some people seem to claim.  Vaccine immunity is clearly not lifelong either.  It appears to start waning after 6 months.

I suggest interviewing the residents of Manuas, Brazil or New Delhi, India.  Millions of them were re-infected by the gamma and delta variant, respectively.  That "T-cell memory" thing didn't do squat for them.  It certainly shocked the medical community.

25 minutes ago, losetoa6 said:

Hey...this Redneck Dummy is enjoying normal life down here in Daytona beach , Florida . I've gone to bars, restaurants, on boats, golfing .  I've been here 6 days and everyone here has moved on obviously from covid . I can count on 1 hand the masks I've seen . No social distancing, no limits on gatherings... no bullshit . It's great ( Just like at home lol) . If you dont watch news or have social media like me the reality on the ground is life is normal. 

Daytona is definitely redneck central.  It's what happens if you moved West Virginia to the beach.

Honestly not sure why some are holding onto this idea that we can have lifelong 'natural immunity' to covid, like we get from chicken pox or measles.  so many people have been re-infected that it's clear this isn't the case.

Many people have left the workforce due to chronic covid issues.  It disproportionately affects women between the ages of 20 - 50, and in nearly all cases their acute covid illness was very mild, but chronic lingering symptoms afterward were much worse.  The business elites are actually more terrified of this because it could impact the labor force for years.

The medical community will probably gaslight these people, telling them it's "psychosomatic", just like they do for conditions like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, or chronic lyme.  meanwhile, many of them will go on disability, even though they count as a "recovered" case in our casedemic. 

LOL @ the anti-maskers on this forum.  Looking forward to mask field reports again.  It was pretty obvious masks would come back; that's because the CDC new guidance from May made no sense.  we should find out what drove the CDC to go from one extreme (recommending masks outdoors, even for vaccinated) to the other opposite extreme (no masks needed anywhere) - all within the span of two weeks.  no doubt some chamber of commerce lobbying money was involved.

On 6/2/2021 at 3:44 PM, fujiwara79 said:

yes, this is probably true, but i would argue that seasonality plays a big part here.  the northern latitudes (northern US and europe) had low covid prevalence last summer - and that's without vaccines.  in fact, i would willing to bet that the positivity rates were < 1% in the new england states last summer.  seychelles and maldives are two of the most vaccinated countries in the world, yet they are having their biggest outbreaks right now.  vaccines help prevent serious outcomes, which should be the main point, but it wouldn't surprise me if mask mandates come back locally or regionally in the winter as prevalence rises again.

I predicted this more than a month ago and was weenie'd.  But now people are coming around to the idea that mask ordinances might come back.  LOL.  Told ya.

1 hour ago, DomNH said:

I don’t either but I think it is what it is and folks are not changing their minds. I’m vaccinated but personally could not care less if someone chooses not to. If they get sick and have a bad outcome that’s 100% on them at this point. 

Philosophically, that's true, but in reality many of voluntarily unvaxxed people that are currently hospitalized or in the ICU are getting their medical bills paid for by either the CARES act or the recent covid relief bill (especially if they are uninsured).  Instead of offering lottery tickets and cash prizes to get vaxxed, the federal government should instead stop subsidizing hospitalizations for these people.  Make the hospitals and insurance companies figure out how to pay for it.  If this happened, you'll start seeing insurance companies compel employers to require vaccines for their workforce.  Suddenly they'll realize that insurance companies are not as nice and coddling as the goobermint.

36 minutes ago, natedizel said:

Whats the point of living 1/3 of life. I rather not live at all. 

I would feel like an animal stuck in a cage 

yeah, I mean not being able to dine-in at applebees for a couple weeks is just brutal.  it's a human rights violation.  worse than gitmo.  worse than abu gharib.  the only thing that would make it worse is being asked to wear a mask.

39 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Or, it's just the PR ineptitude of American "intelligence" agencies.

The resurrection of the 'Wuhan lab leak' story in the media was because of an intelligence report that was "leaked" (pun intended) to the media about a month ago.  Now the intelligence agencies are supposed to conduct an investigation and come back with a report in 90 days (circa end of August).  The lemmings will believe whatever these intelligence reports say if it affirms their pre-conceived narrative.  Nothing is better for their funding apparatus than another cold war.

Just now, radarman said:

I'm not sure that article addresses natural immunity vs vaccine immunity.  And it doesn't even conclude that natural immunity is waning, just throws it out there as a possible explanation.  (1 of 4 possible explanations).  Even then calls that explanation "unlikely to fully explain resurgence".  Also, says later, "if resurgence in Manaus is due to waning of protective immunity, then similar resurgence scenarios should be expected in other locations", but we have not seen that here in the US, nor in Europe. etc.

Moreover they cite the NEJM study from 2020 suggesting 6 mo immunity and then talk about how in Manaus the period was 7-8 months so i.  But a subsequent June 2021 study shows at least 10 month immunity. 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanhl/article/PIIS2666-7568(21)00093-3/fulltext

I think the 'natural immunity' probably exists for one particular variant, but the resurgence occurs when new variants arise.  All the resurgences in areas with high seroprevalence were due to a new variant.  That tells you two things: 1) natural immunity is very narrow and doesn't exist for the entire variant spectrum; 2) this isn't like measles or chicken pox, where you get it once and then you're immune for life.

On 6/25/2021 at 1:13 PM, White Rain said:

I’m sorry but I do not believe a vaccine is better than natural immunity.  This goes against all conventional wisdom. Show me some real data 

tens of millions of people in brazil, south africa and india are evidence your "belief" in "conventional wisdom" is wrong.  not to mention that people get re-infected with other coronavirus all the time, so why would this particular 'Rona be different.

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext

37 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Missouri is bucking the national trend with covid.  They had their highest daily case number today since early February.  They are behind the national average in vaccinations, but still almost 40% of the state is fully vaxxed (that is 40% of all Missouri residents, not 40% of vaccine eligible).  Combine that with prior infections and now being in summer, it's "impressive" to see rising numbers.  The deck is stacked against it in multiple ways and it still found a way to happen.  

the vaccines aren't anywhere near 95% efficacious against these variants, but if they prevent serious illness then they're still doing their jobs.

israel just reinstituted their mask mandate and a lot of vaccinated people got infected.  the 'wild' form of the virus doesn't exist anymore.

3 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

I think COVID and his gross mismanagement of it took him down more than any opponent-no COVID economy is humming along-maybe he doesnt win bigly like he did in 2016 but I think he still would have carried it....

he was likely to lose regardless.  a general rule of thumb is that the incumbent needs to be at about 47% approval rating to have a reasonable chance of winning.  he was in the low 40s for practically his entire presidency, even when the economy was great.  he 'surged' to 45% in the closing weeks of the campaign, which made it closer, and the dems voluntarily handicapped themselves by not knocking on doors or doing in-person registration events because of covid (understandably so).  the only way to win with such low approval ratings is to have some third party candidates in the mix to siphon votes, or to have an equally unlikeable opponent, ala 2016.

5 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

Pretty much everyone rides with a helmet. It's just a basic safety thing that almost everyone does.

are you kidding me?  i've seen tons of people that ride motorcycles without helmets.  you live in jersey?  that's probably why.  i believe new jersey requires helmets by law.  not all states are like that.  the "muh freedumbz" crowd has always been adamantly against having states require motorcyclists wear helmets.  they were against seat belt laws back in the day too.

15 hours ago, PhineasC said:

I am wondering why you guys keep pinning this entirely on the rich fat cats when there is an entire consumer side of the equation that demands extremely low prices for luxury goods and will have a fit if those prices go up?

yes, we have a consumerist culture.  although I don't think it was always this way.  we used to have more of a savings culture, but low interest rates, free trade and no anti-trust enforcement changed that.  policy might have influenced culture or the other way around -- but the changes happened around the same time.