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  1. What is it with those SW TX storms that always seem to do their own thing in May? If I recall correctly, there were some instances of it last May and I'm sure in some years past as well. Currently a storm east of Fort Stockton which is SVR warned with TOR possible mentioned

  2. 4 minutes ago, BrandonC_TX said:

    Those storms are definitely outflow-dominant now.  The outflow boundary has surged well ahead of the storms, and is currently over central Dallas County and southern Tarrant County (and is just north of the KFWS radar site).  If these storms had maintained unimpeded inflow at or near the surface we would probably be having a major hailstorm over DFW right now, but fortunately that outflow surged out ahead of the storms.

    Yeah it shows now and the storm is below severe levels as it tracks southeast

  3. 2 hours ago, BrandonC_TX said:

    Interestingly enough there might be some outflow out ahead of this storm, from west of Thackerville over to Muenster and Bowie (which is evident on the KFWS radar).  Might be a sign of a possible weakening trend, but this does not appear ahead of the lead storm over Thackerville.

    Welp. I was thinking the storm would go south through Denton and Tarrant counties but it's taken an interesting turn to the east and looks like it'll hit here in southern Collin County... warned for 65 mph winds and ping pong ball sized hail.

  4. This is from the outlook regarding the area of focus for a tornado threat 

    ...OK/KS/MO/AR/TX this afternoon and evening...
       Latest surface analysis shows a low over northwest OK with the
       dryline extending southward into western north TX.  This dryline
       will surge eastward today as a cold front sags across KS into OK. 
       Current indications are that the triple-point of the cold front and
       dryline will be over far northeast OK by late afternoon.  There is
       also a subtle warm front extending from northeast OK into central
       AR.  This boundary will lift slowly northward as well.  The result
       will be a zone of low-level convergence and rapid thunderstorm
       development in the 3-5pm period over extreme southeast KS, northeast
       OK, and southwest MO.  These storms will be in an environment of
       very high CAPE values, steep mid-level lapse rates, and ample
       deep-layer shear to support supercell structures.  Low-level shear
       profiles will also be very strong - especially in vicinity of the
       warm front where backed surface winds will enhance 1km helicity
       values over 500 m2/s2.  Storms that form will pose a risk of very
       large hail and a few tornadoes (including strong tornadoes).  The
       primary negative factor for tornado risk is the linear forcing
       mechanism along the cold front, which may result in undercutting and
       a transition to linear storm structures within a couple of hours of
       initiation.  This activity will likely spread east-southeastward
       across northern AR after dark with a hail/wind and isolated tornado
       risk.
    
       Farther south along the dryline and cold front, storms should
       develop through the late afternoon and evening across the eastern
       half of OK and perhaps into north TX.  Very large hail is the
       primary risk with these storms.

    Mentions the somewhat quick transition to a linear mode being a possible limiting factor to the tornado threat, which might have been discussed here(?), ingredients look impressive though.

  5. 8 minutes ago, BrandonC_TX said:

    90%/70% severe wind probabilities on that new severe thunderstorm watch, high odds but not enough for PDS.  If those odds were slightly higher (let's say >95/80) then I think they would have gone PDS.

    Yeah, does PDS for severe t-storm watches have a different criteria than TOR watches (with regard to probabilities)? I want to say yes but I can't remember for sure

  6. Watch coming soon including DFW area 

    Mesoscale Discussion 0494
       NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
       0806 PM CDT Tue Apr 28 2020
    
       Areas affected...north central through northeast Texas into
       southwest Arkansas and northwest Louisiana
    
       Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely 
    
       Valid 290106Z - 290200Z
    
       Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent
    
       SUMMARY...Severe storms with a threat for mainly damaging wind and
       large hail are expected to develop southeast into north-central and
       northeast Texas, southwest AR and northwest LA this evening into
       tonight. A WW will likely be issued prior to 0130Z.
    
       DISCUSSION...Severe storms continue developing along a
       southeast-advancing cold front from eastern through south-central
       OK. The downstream warm sector across north-central and northeast TX
       is very unstable with the 00Z RAOB from Fort Worth indicating 3500
       J/kg MLCAPE and 9 C/km 700-500 mb lapse rates along with 35-40 kt
       effective bulk shear. An inversion was evident near 800 mb at the
       base of an EML, and convective inhibition will increase as the
       surface layer cools. However, deep forcing and convergence along the
       southeast-advancing cold front should remain sufficient for
       additional thunderstorm development this evening into tonight. Both
       multicell line segments and some embedded supercell structures will
       be possible with large to very large hail and widespread damaging
       wind gusts the main threats, though a tornado or two cannot be ruled
       out.
    
  7. 2 minutes ago, cheese007 said:

    Definitely getting similar vibes to the June wind storm from last year in DFW. Took out a ton of trees and knocked a crane onto an apartment buildin

    Ah yeah I remember, did we have a couple tornadoes with that one? We actually had a few storm systems and tornadoes in June. My family and cousins got the bright idea to go to a community swimming pool that day, storm took everyone by surprise and the leading edge of the line was ominous and rotating in front of me. We got some gusts of 60+ mph there.

  8. 4 minutes ago, BrandonC_TX said:

    I wonder what the odds of getting a tornado are for north-central Texas if there happen to be discrete storms around?  I know the supercell composite, helicity, and significant tornado values often do go up in the evening and at night (RAP on SPC Mesoanalysis shows this happening over north-central TX prior to the arrival of storms), but that storms often become more elevated at night as well.  The HRRR model also has the DFW area at the tail-end of the line of storms.

    It always concerns me to see forecast values that high over a highly-populated area (DFW) with what could be some semi-discrete activity, but I have seen this happen before in the late spring and summer with few-to-no tornado reports.  This is also a northwest-flow scenario and there tend to be fewer tornadoes with that.  That said, I do wonder if we will see a derecho this evening.

    Yeah, I've been wondering about that too. Being on the western/southwestern edge of the line (most likely) got me wondering if we could see a broken line of cells impacting our area rather than the squall, but I still think that with this being a northwest-flow scenario (as you said), and really not much shear in the area, I'm not very concerned about anything more than maybe a few weak tornadoes (then again, there's a lot of built-up areas here and it'll be late at night), but trends will continue to be monitored. The threat may very well increase, it's just not looking that way to me as of now. If DFW ends up getting in on a derecho, that'll probably result in a lot of power outages and damage in its own right. 

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