banshee8

I mean, the NSIDC is a pretty mainstream source. I think some predictions got a lot more aggressive after 2007, but most toned it down after about 2013.

Keeps getting pushed back... https://nsidc.org/news/inthenews/arctic-could-be-ice-free-2020-scientists-say https://nsidc.org/news/inthenews/arctic-could-be-free-summer-sea-ice-2030

Well, what is interesting is that trends in the U.S. don't always follow the global ones. For the lower 48, since 2007 we've seen a shift to colder continental patterns during the cold season that has been opposite of global trends. Compare the winters since 2007 to the decade that preceded. Complete anomaly reversal, and definitely colder overall.

Did you see the post I was responding to? He was saying we should be colder given the Alaskan blocking, and then referenced the weather in his backyard. The western 2/3 of the country was very cold last month, including the all-time record for October.

You realize that the coldest temperature ever recorded in the lower 48 in October happened last month, right?