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DownpourDave

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  1. 23 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

    I think the PDO is responding more to the Nino-like flow in the NPac than the other way around. Now what is driving that is beyond my pay grade.

    I was gonna say, can’t be normal to have the PDO flip like this in a Nina is it? Anyways that Nino like flow in the NPac looks to continue according to the models. 
     

    Also regardless of the cause, the PDO flipping like this can’t be a bad thing. 

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  2. On 12/12/2024 at 8:12 PM, SnowLover22 said:

    PDO trending upwards the first half of December. @psuhoffman what is your target value out of curosity.

     

    If I am understanding the PDO correctly, the general "trough pattern" over the North Western Pacific Ocean that has been ongoing and forecast on the models should act to continue to help cause the PDO Index to rise. 

     

    Screen Shot 2024-12-12 at 8.09.57 PM.png

    Lets get this at -1.00 by January 1st

     

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  3. 45 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

    If it can get above -1 for Winter we bring some better cold neutral and weak Nina analogs into play.  The snowier months in those parameters were above -1. Jan-Mar 2014 averaged about -.3. March 2018 was -.8. 2006 was slightly positive. 1996 was +1.  January 2022 is one of the only examples of a snowy month with a severely -pdo so it’s not impossible but most of our snowy months come with a pdo above -1. 
     

    however we still have a long way to go, yea it’s rising. But it’s coming off a record low it’s still very negative by any other standard and it would be unprecedented to go from -3.5 in the fall to near neutral by winter. That’s the main reason I didn’t include 2014 in my analogs. 

    You know what is strange, the PDO was near neutral at times last winter(according to chart) yet it didn’t seem to help much. Probably other factors at play (most likely would find an answer by researching the analogs applicable to last year).

  4. 1 hour ago, SnowLover22 said:

    PDO trending upwards the first half of December. @psuhoffman what is your target value out of curosity.

     

    If I am understanding the PDO correctly, the general "trough pattern" over the North Western Pacific Ocean that has been ongoing and forecast on the models should act to continue to help cause the PDO Index to rise. 

     

    Screen Shot 2024-12-12 at 8.09.57 PM.png

    Credit to @brooklynwx99

    A visual representing the change in that chart.

     

    SSTA Change

     

    IMG_0422.png

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  5. PDO trending upwards the first half of December. @psuhoffman what is your target value out of curosity.

     

    If I am understanding the PDO correctly, the general "trough pattern" over the North Western Pacific Ocean that has been ongoing and forecast on the models should act to continue to help cause the PDO Index to rise. 

     

    Screen Shot 2024-12-12 at 8.09.57 PM.png

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