METALSTORM

1 minute ago, MUWX said:

If I am thinking of the same house, it looked like it may have still been under construction. Hard to say though. 

I hope being under construction was the case.

That KCK  beast is likely a high end EF4. And would not be surprised if it winds up with a 5. That home with just a basement and everything else gone looks like something from the 1997 Jarrell TX monster

1 hour ago, Calderon said:

I think you’re right. That is a bit surprising given the two significant tornadoes that’ve gone right through densely populated areas of St. Charles & St. Louis Counties and St. Louis City in 2011 and 2013.

 

 

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I don't think they liked the idea. In 2006 on both March 11th and 12th they used some vividly worded warnings with headlines like "extremely dangerous storm approaching Paris". EAX and SGF used TOR-E wording but LSX chose not too. In 2011 I remember the headline in one of the warnings having a headline of "destructive tornado moving through St Charles County". Definitely got the point across. The EF3 in 2013 had a tier 2 PDS warning for most of its life. I'm still not a TOR-E fan but I understand where it may be effective. Last night being a good example

Thank you.

Does anyone have the text for the Jefferson City Tornado Emergency? I believe it was a first for the LSX office

9 minutes ago, mikeosborne38 said:

I like watching Damon Lane. Not sure which station but he stays calm and gives you just the facts without hyperbole.

KOCO 5 is Damon Lane. KOKH 25 isn't bad either but they don't have a helicopter. Both of the above mentioned channels are definitely the calmer of the four news channels in OKC.

5 minutes ago, mikeosborne38 said:

I just heard an OKC met look at the cone tornado and then announced it was an EF-2 just by eyeballing it. I thought that was odd.

4 and 9 have turned into a clown show since 2013. 

2 minutes ago, Calderon said:

The circulation looks to have completely fallen apart very rapidly as it is moving into Weldon Spring right now. 

It's moving right on top of the radar sight

7 minutes ago, weatherextreme said:

 

The main problem with that perception is that it wasn't just the SPC/NWS guys that thought this was going to be a high-end event it was plenty of others across multiple platforms. 

Also, speaking on these types of issues, do you think it would be best for the SPC/NWS to go with a lower category when most everything is pointing to a higher-end event?  I've heard some people mention that it's actually best to stay at a lower (mod, enhanced category) until something major happens (guessing violent (major tornadoes)).

If it is to be called a bust then it was a bust for not only government mets but seasoned tornado alley TV mets, well experienced chasers and internet know nothings like myself. I would say (with hindsight being 20/20) that the best course of action would be to look back and see what was missed and if it was possible to predict it. For all of our advancements mother nature is still in charge and occasionally will make everyone look kind of dumb.

Perhaps changes to the models in recent years are affecting their performance. Hard to believe this is not panning out as predicted with all the ingredients in place. Watch tomorrow overperform in the Mid MS Valley with "only" an enhanced risk in place simply because Mother Nature hates the weather community.

43 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Best livestreams for the region? (TV stations, webcams, etc.)

I personally stream KOKH and KOCO from OKC. They're the calmest on air and KOCO has a helicopter. I think KAUZ in Witchita Falls may stream their severe coverage as well. KOKI in Tulsa streams their coverage. Hope that helped

4 minutes ago, yoda said:

I'm not being a radar warrior... I am just asking a simple question of why they did that.  Usually, if it's an emergency situation as it said in the warning with regards to a confirmed large and dangerous tornado on the ground, then it would be at the very start of the warning.  I'm just wondering, that's all.  Not trying to call out DDC at all

The radar warrior part was me being a lousy poster. Sorry, I'm hammered and just got uppity about defending their wording. I assume somtimes they add things on the fly during a fast changing situation. I was a d##k in my statement and I do apologize

45 minutes ago, yoda said:

Why is DDC putting "this is an emergency situation" at the end of their warning again?  Shouldn't it be at the beginning?

DDC will respond with the information at hand and balance it with the utmost consideration for human life and not based on the observances of a radar warrior

LSX has had problems with polygons and other glitches going on today and radar display issues yesterday. NOAA has had too many computer glitches in recent weeks. Wonder what is going on with them?

I truly hope your luck changes soon. Terrible situation you folks have going on. Best wishes and prayers to all affected by the flooding and other severe weather this month.

Indystorm I've noticed the maps for each forecast office seem to be stuck. LSX and SGF have been showing the same SVR polygon for a few hours now. JAN and MEG are not showing the tornado watch on their maps and the flash flood warnings are not updating on their maps either. The NOAA national map seems to be ok but the individual offices seem to be having a software problem.