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  1. 3 minutes ago, Retrobuc said:

    What are the chances this continues to move north beyond TPA and into the Cedar Key area?

    The cone is the 1σ (68%) envelope. It is expected that tropical cyclones will deviate outside one specific side of the cone about 16% of the time. Given that Cedar Key is just inside the cone on the north side you can infer about a 20% chance.

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  2. The dropsonde that reported 127 kts at the surface also reported a peak in the whole profile of 145 kts at 910 mb.

    The most recent drop in the NW eyewall only reported 105 kts at the surface but a remarkable 183 kts at 900 mb. It probably got entrained into a gust, but still...that's 211 mph!

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  3. 12Z SHIPS is out though I'm not sure how helpful it is during a round of ongoing RI. Anyway, it is initialized at 110 kts. The consensus between statistical and dynamic is 44%, 41%, and 29% for 25 kts, 30 kts, and 35 kts of additional intensification respectively. There is a > 50% of an ERC in the next 24 hours.

    Shear and dry air are still expected to encroach and weaken the storm as it approaches land.

                                     *                  GFS version                   *
                                     * ATLANTIC     2024 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST     *
                                     * IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE,       OHC AVAILABLE     *
                                     *  MILTON      AL142024  10/07/24  12 UTC        *
    
    TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120   132   144   156   168
    V (KT) NO LAND   110   119   122   122   121   114   110   105    97    84    64    52    43    36    34   N/A   N/A
    V (KT) LAND      110   119   122   122   121   114   110   105    70    56    36    24    15   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
    V (KT) LGEM      110   122   128   129   126   120   116   110    70    59    46    34    24    16   N/A   N/A   N/A
    Storm Type      TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  EXTP  EXTP  EXTP  TROP   N/A   N/A
    
    SHEAR (KT)         8    11    11    10     9    19    27    34    35    50    57    68    66    60    47   N/A   N/A
    SHEAR ADJ (KT)     1     2     7     9     5     4     3     6     2     6     8     6    -3    -7     0   N/A   N/A
    SHEAR DIR        191   175   166   186   167   194   215   217   230   233   228   225   230   228   241   N/A   N/A
    SST (C)         31.1  31.0  30.6  30.6  30.9  30.7  30.2  30.3  29.7  28.7  27.8  27.9  27.4  27.7  27.8   N/A   N/A
    POT. INT. (KT)   170   171   171   171   171   172   172   173   165   149   136   138   131   135   136   N/A   N/A
    200 MB T (C)   -51.2 -51.0 -50.8 -50.8 -50.8 -50.4 -50.2 -50.0 -50.5 -50.9 -51.1 -51.3 -52.3 -53.0 -52.7   N/A   N/A
    200 MB VXT (C)   0.4   0.6   0.6   0.8   0.9   1.4   1.6   2.2   1.3   0.8   0.7   0.3   0.7   0.2   0.2   N/A   N/A
    TH_E DEV (C)       7     9     8     8     8     8     6     5     2     1     2     3     2     3     4   N/A   N/A
    700-500 MB RH     66    61    60    57    56    47    46    50    53    48    40    33    34    32    37   N/A   N/A
    MODEL VTX (KT)    22    25    26    27    28    29    34    36    36    33    28    25    20    13     8  LOST  LOST
    850 MB ENV VOR    74    73    80    86    91   101   101    85    86    75    84    45    40   -10   -19   N/A   N/A
    200 MB DIV        19    26    35    15   -14     9    46    80    97    68    51    25     4    21     6   N/A   N/A
    700-850 TADV      -8   -16   -19   -13   -11   -13     1     4    -8   -34   -43   -58   -50   -59   -46   N/A   N/A
    LAND (KM)        211   116    56    61    65   253   261    13    74   390   581   742   956  1231  1428   N/A   N/A
    LAT (DEG N)     21.8  21.8  21.7  22.0  22.2  23.8  25.6  27.3  28.9  29.8  30.2  30.9  32.1 xx.x  xx.x    N/A   N/A
    LONG(DEG W)     92.2  91.2  90.1  89.1  88.1  86.4  84.5  82.7  80.0  76.9  73.5  70.0  66.3 xxx.x xxx.x   N/A   N/A
    STM SPEED (KT)     7    10    10    10    10    12    12    13    14    15    15    16    16    16    16   N/A   N/A
    HEAT CONTENT      39    33    22    20    19    60    31    27    40    31    18    13     9     7     7   N/A   N/A
    
     SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold=  30% is   6.1 times climatological mean ( 4.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  27% is   2.5 times climatological mean (10.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  26% is   3.8 times climatological mean ( 6.8%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  19% is   4.9 times climatological mean ( 3.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold=   8% is   3.1 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold=  11% is   2.4 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold=   0% is   0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.7%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold=   0% is   0.0 times climatological mean ( 5.3%)
        
    Matrix of RI probabilities
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      RI (kt / h)  | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48  |65/72
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       SHIPS-RII:    29.7%   27.2%   26.0%   19.2%    7.5%   11.2%    0.0%    0.0%
        Logistic:    30.3%   27.0%   26.3%   22.8%    6.8%   10.9%    1.9%    0.0%
        Bayesian:    20.3%    0.1%    0.4%    0.6%    0.0%    0.0%    0.0%    0.0%
       Consensus:    26.8%   18.1%   17.6%   14.2%    4.8%    7.4%    0.6%    0.0%
           DTOPS:    78.0%   69.0%   64.0%   44.0%    6.0%   26.0%    5.0%    0.0%
           SDCON:    52.4%   43.5%   40.8%   29.1%    5.4%   16.7%    2.8%      0%
    
    ** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL142024 MILTON     10/07/2024  12 UTC **
    TIME(HR)   0-12  12-24(0-24)  24-36(0-36)  36-48(0-48)
    CLIMO(%)    29     34( 53)      34( 69)      30( 78)     <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
    PROB(%)     18      2( 20)       5( 24)       5( 27)     <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)

     

  4. 18Z SHIPS is still favorable for rapid intensification (no surprise). The model is initialized at 70 kts with the odds of 55 kts of further intensification at 21% for SHIPS and 97% for DTOPS and consensus of the two SDCON at 53% suggesting that 125 kts (category 4) is not only possible, but perhaps likely.

    Of note is the shear, at least that which is modeled by the GFS track, which increases significantly as Milton approaches land and is the primary factor in the decline in intensity prior to landfall.

                                     *                  GFS version                   *
                                     * ATLANTIC     2024 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST     *
                                     * IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE,       OHC AVAILABLE     *
                                     *  MILTON      AL142024  10/06/24  18 UTC        *
    
    TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120   132   144   156   168
    V (KT) NO LAND    70    80    88    95   101   108   112   107   103    89    70    48    32    18   N/A   N/A   N/A
    V (KT) LAND       70    80    88    95   101   108   112   107    91    64    45    24   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
    V (KT) LGEM       70    81    90    98   104   114   117   117   110    68    55    42    30    22    16   N/A   N/A
    Storm Type      TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  EXTP  EXTP  EXTP  TROP   N/A   N/A
    
    SHEAR (KT)         4    11    14    14    13    14    12    31    35    42    44    57    69    67    39   N/A   N/A
    SHEAR ADJ (KT)     0     1     1     0     1     6     4     6     6     0     2     7     2     0     5   N/A   N/A
    SHEAR DIR        211   218   221   220   199   219   214   221   215   223   226   225   227   233   224   N/A   N/A
    SST (C)         31.1  31.0  31.1  31.1  31.1  30.8  30.7  30.2  30.2  29.4  28.8  27.7  27.3  27.5  28.5   N/A   N/A
    POT. INT. (KT)   169   170   170   171   171   172   172   172   173   160   150   135   129   130   144   N/A   N/A
    200 MB T (C)   -51.1 -50.8 -51.1 -51.2 -50.8 -50.7 -50.9 -50.2 -50.1 -50.1 -50.2 -50.6 -51.4 -52.1 -52.6   N/A   N/A
    200 MB VXT (C)   0.3   0.3   0.4   0.5   0.5   0.9   1.1   1.7   2.1   2.1   0.9   0.4   0.3   0.0   0.2   N/A   N/A
    TH_E DEV (C)       9     8     7     7     8     8     8     6     6     2     2     2     2     2     4   N/A   N/A
    700-500 MB RH     70    68    64    62    60    53    50    47    51    54    56    44    37    37    43   N/A   N/A
    MODEL VTX (KT)    17    18    21    21    23    27    30    32    35    35    30    24    19    14    10  LOST  LOST
    850 MB ENV VOR    38    56    68    70    70    69   118   121   102    81    78    56    38    14   -20   N/A   N/A
    200 MB DIV        12    21    14    14    30    17    39    32   101    88    81    18    19     0    14   N/A   N/A
    700-850 TADV      -2    -8    -9   -11   -15   -13   -11     1     6    -1   -41   -55   -93   -45   -19   N/A   N/A
    LAND (KM)        347   359   300   223   167   193   310   266    -7    61   365   542   673   879  1097   N/A   N/A
    LAT (DEG N)     22.5  22.6  22.6  22.6  22.5  23.3  24.4  25.8  27.8  29.0  29.6  30.5  31.9 xx.x  xx.x    N/A   N/A
    LONG(DEG W)     94.1  93.4  92.7  91.7  90.8  88.7  86.8  84.7  82.7  80.2  77.1  73.7  70.0 xxx.x xxx.x   N/A   N/A
    STM SPEED (KT)     5     6     8     9     9    10    11    12    13    13    14    16    13    10    11   N/A   N/A
    HEAT CONTENT      46    46    45    43    37    33    57    32    25    34    34    17    11    10    14   N/A   N/A
    
     SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold=  30% is   6.0 times climatological mean ( 4.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  58% is   5.3 times climatological mean (10.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  45% is   6.7 times climatological mean ( 6.8%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  40% is  10.3 times climatological mean ( 3.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  23% is   9.5 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold=  33% is   7.1 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold=  21% is   4.5 times climatological mean ( 4.7%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold=  17% is   3.1 times climatological mean ( 5.3%)
        
    Matrix of RI probabilities
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      RI (kt / h)  | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48  |65/72
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       SHIPS-RII:    29.6%   58.3%   45.4%   40.3%   22.7%   32.9%   21.3%   16.5%
        Logistic:    33.2%   46.0%   45.9%   33.9%    9.6%   15.4%    4.7%    0.7%
        Bayesian:    30.1%    8.4%   19.2%   31.5%   13.6%    0.9%    0.1%    0.0%
       Consensus:    31.0%   37.5%   36.8%   35.3%   15.3%   16.4%    8.7%    5.7%
           DTOPS:    65.0%   97.0%   92.0%   71.0%   32.0%  100.0%   97.0%   15.0%
           SDCON:    48.0%   67.2%   64.4%   53.1%   23.6%   58.2%   52.8%   10.3%
    

     

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  5. While most of the hurricane models were bold with their intensity at 18Z one notable exception is COAMPS which peaks at only 65 kts. Because publicly accessible data is so hard to find that isn't delayed I can only speculate on the cause. I noticed its track takes a deeper dive toward the Yucatan not unlike the ECMWF and ICON. Notice that the ECMWF and ICON are more bullish with the development of the minor tropical disturbance on the eastern side of the GOM even establishing and maintaining a closed surface low as it tracks over FL ahead of Milton's approach. This causes a slight Fujiwhara bend in Milton's track. It's possible COAMPS sides more with the ECMWF/ICON in this regard and as result may be mitigating intensification somewhat. Anyway, the point is that not all hurricane models in the IVCN suite are bullish on Milton's intensity.

    Edit: Slight wording change for clarity.

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  6. 0Z SHIPS is in. It's still showing modest intensity and RI probabilities. However, what piqued my interest is that DTOPS is showing an RI probability of 88% of 65 kts in 72 hours. I don't remember seeing a higher value. DTOPS is the Deterministic to Probabilistic Statistical Model and is said to be the most skillful of all intensity models. [DeMaria et al. 2021]

                                     *                  GFS version                   *
                                     * ATLANTIC     2024 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST     *
                                     * IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE,       OHC AVAILABLE     *
                                     *  MILTON      AL142024  10/06/24  00 UTC        *
    
    TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120   132   144   156   168
    V (KT) NO LAND    35    39    44    50    56    67    76    80    82    82    74    63    52    37    25   N/A   N/A
    V (KT) LAND       35    39    44    50    56    67    76    80    82    82    56    47    36    21   N/A   N/A   N/A
    V (KT) LGEM       35    38    41    45    49    59    69    74    78    79    57    48    38    29    23    18   N/A
    Storm Type      TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  EXTP  TROP  TROP  TROP  EXTP
    
    SHEAR (KT)        10    12    10     8    13    13    15    20    20    30    41    42    52    46    42    39    50
    SHEAR ADJ (KT)     1     0    -2     0     1     1     3     2     6     7     5     0     8     3    11    10     4
    SHEAR DIR        222   238   252   237   224   237   236   234   230   223   214   226   227   232   230   242   242
    SST (C)         31.3  31.3  31.1  31.0  31.0  31.1  30.9  30.5  30.5  30.1  28.8  29.2  28.2  27.4  28.0  27.5  27.6
    POT. INT. (KT)   168   168   169   169   170   170   171   172   172   172   150   157   141   130   136   130   132
    200 MB T (C)   -51.2 -51.4 -51.4 -51.2 -51.1 -51.4 -51.1 -51.1 -50.6 -50.1 -50.1 -50.5 -50.7 -51.4 -51.6 -52.0 -52.4
    200 MB VXT (C)   0.5   0.5   0.4   0.4   0.3   0.5   0.7   1.0   1.4   1.8   2.3   1.2   0.4   0.7   0.4   0.4   0.1
    TH_E DEV (C)       8     7     6     8     8     6     8     6     7     5     3     1     1     2     3     3     3
    700-500 MB RH     75    76    74    70    68    63    58    52    47    52    52    55    54    49    43    40    38
    MODEL VTX (KT)    10    11    13    15    17    22    26    29    32    36    35    32    30    25    21    16    12
    850 MB ENV VOR    37    33    27    37    51    60    48    91   133   126   106    98    57    50    24     5   -10
    200 MB DIV        32    25     7    20    31     6    45    22    39    53    84    86    53    63    16     8    -1
    700-850 TADV      -1    -1    -2    -3    -7    -6   -12   -10   -10     1    -4   -19   -48   -26   -50   -38   -57
    LAND (KM)        251   286   322   378   406   287   252   321   375   157   -85   234   435   579   757   913  1081
    LAT (DEG N)     22.9  23.0  23.1  23.2  23.2  23.1  23.5  24.5  25.4  26.9  28.7  30.1  30.8 xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x 
    LONG(DEG W)     95.3  95.0  94.6  94.1  93.5  92.0  90.3  88.2  86.2  84.1  81.8  78.8  75.2 xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x
    STM SPEED (KT)     3     3     4     5     6     8     9    10    11    12    14    15    14    12     9    10    10
    HEAT CONTENT      50    51    50    50    49    47    41    43    58    24     6    44    19    16    14    11    11
    
     SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold=   4% is   0.8 times climatological mean ( 4.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  27% is   2.4 times climatological mean (10.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  12% is   1.8 times climatological mean ( 6.8%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold=   9% is   2.3 times climatological mean ( 3.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold=   6% is   2.5 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold=  12% is   2.7 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold=  13% is   2.8 times climatological mean ( 4.7%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold=  21% is   3.9 times climatological mean ( 5.3%)
        
    Matrix of RI probabilities
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      RI (kt / h)  | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48  |65/72
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       SHIPS-RII:     4.1%   26.5%   12.4%    8.8%    5.9%   12.4%   13.3%   20.8%
        Logistic:     8.7%   34.6%   24.1%    9.7%    3.7%    8.2%    7.2%    3.4%
        Bayesian:     1.6%    4.6%    1.6%    0.9%    0.5%    0.2%    0.5%    0.3%
       Consensus:     4.8%   21.9%   12.7%    6.5%    3.4%    6.9%    7.0%    8.2%
           DTOPS:     5.0%   74.0%   43.0%   14.0%    6.0%   80.0%   79.0%   88.0%
           SDCON:     4.9%   47.9%   27.8%   10.2%    4.7%   43.4%   43.0%   48.1%
    

     

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  7. 18Z SHIPS modestly favors rapid intensification. It only peaks Milton at 80 kts though, which given latest dynamical guidance, should probably be viewed as closer to the lower bound. 

                         *                  GFS version                   *
                         * ATLANTIC     2024 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST     *
                         * IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE,       OHC AVAILABLE     *
                         *  MILTON      AL142024  10/05/24  18 UTC        *
    
    TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96
    V (KT) NO LAND    35    39    44    49    55    63    73    76    78    80    72
    V (KT) LAND       35    39    44    49    55    63    73    76    78    80    65
    V (KT) LGEM       35    38    41    45    49    59    69    76    80    80    74
    Storm Type      TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP
    
    SHEAR (KT)         4     8     9    10     8    16    15    20    19    31    44
    SHEAR ADJ (KT)    -1     1     0    -1     0     1    -1     4     5     9     2
    SHEAR DIR        225   243   246   244   233   229   243   244   242   241   235
    SST (C)         31.2  31.3  31.2  31.1  31.0  31.1  30.9  30.7  30.8  30.0  30.0
    POT. INT. (KT)   168   169   168   169   169   170   171   172   172   170   171
    200 MB T (C)   -51.5 -51.3 -51.4 -51.4 -51.4 -51.4 -51.1 -51.1 -50.7 -50.4 -49.5
    200 MB VXT (C)   0.4   0.4   0.5   0.4   0.4   0.3   0.5   0.9   1.1   1.4   1.8
    TH_E DEV (C)       7     7     6     6     8     7     7     7     7     5     5
    700-500 MB RH     79    76    75    73    71    67    63    56    52    50    50
    MODEL VTX (KT)    10    10    12    13    15    18    24    26    29    34    34
    850 MB ENV VOR    56    43    30    31    39    57    62    54   135   133   124
    200 MB DIV        48    30    25     8    12    26    31    31    40    56    61
    700-850 TADV       0    -2    -1    -3    -3    -5    -5    -5    -1     4     7
    LAND (KM)        214   250   271   322   373   343   285   291   409   234     0
    LAT (DEG N)     22.5  22.9  23.2  23.2  23.2  23.1  23.5  24.1  25.3  26.6  28.1
    LONG(DEG W)     95.5  95.3  95.1  94.6  94.1  92.8  91.2  89.2  86.9  84.8  82.8
    STM SPEED (KT)     3     4     4     5     5     7     9    11    12    11    13
    HEAT CONTENT      48    51    52    51    50    48    46    44    61    28    24
    
     SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold=   5% is   1.1 times climatological mean ( 4.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  41% is   3.8 times climatological mean (10.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  26% is   3.8 times climatological mean ( 6.8%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold=  10% is   2.6 times climatological mean ( 3.9%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold=   7% is   2.9 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold=  16% is   3.4 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold=  17% is   3.6 times climatological mean ( 4.7%)
     SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold=  23% is   4.4 times climatological mean ( 5.3%)
        
    Matrix of RI probabilities
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      RI (kt / h)  | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48  |65/72
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       SHIPS-RII:     5.3%   41.2%   25.9%   10.2%    7.0%   15.7%   16.8%   23.3%
        Logistic:    13.3%   46.9%   34.4%   10.9%    4.7%   13.6%    8.7%    4.5%
        Bayesian:     2.7%    7.9%    3.1%    1.5%    0.6%    0.8%    0.9%    0.8%
       Consensus:     7.1%   32.0%   21.1%    7.5%    4.1%   10.0%    8.8%    9.5%
           DTOPS:     3.0%   21.0%    7.0%    3.0%    1.0%    3.0%   17.0%   39.0%
           SDCON:     5.0%   26.5%   14.0%    5.2%    2.5%    6.5%   12.9%   24.2%
    

     

  8. UAH TLT temperature is stubbornly resisting the post El Nino drop.

    Here are some trends of interest.

    1st half: +0.14 C.decade-1
    2nd half: +0.23 C.decade-1

    Last 10 years: +0.41 C.decade-1
    Last 15 years: +0.39 C.decade-1
    Last 20 years: +0.30 C.decade-1
    Last 25 years: +0.23 C.decade-1
    Last 30 years: +0.17 C.decade-1

    The acceleration is now at +0.03 C.decade-2.

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