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  1. 21 minutes ago, ChescoWx said:

    For Ray the actual average temperatures by month - who would have thought 6 months a bit warmer at Coatesville and 6 months cooler...a solid highly statistically data set!!image.thumb.png.8bab901f3801bcf0e417bbb0c52f0d62.png-

    Paul, again the problem is that the numbers going into the average. Your highs, and apparently your lows, aren’t representative of a proper site.

     

    I give up.

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  2. This one is easier to read. Again, this is raw high temps.

     

        2004 2005 2006 2007   Difference
    Jan Coatesville 29.9 36.3 47 43.7 39.225  
    Jan E Nantmeal 29.6 35.7 46.2 42.4 38.475 -0.75
    Feb Coatesville 40.4 41.6 41 32.6 38.9  
    Feb E Nantmeal 39.9 41.1 40.7 32.1 38.45 -0.45
    Mar Coatesville 51.8 45.2 51.9 51.8 50.175  
    Mar E Nantmeal 50.9 44.7 50.8 50.8 49.3 -0.875
    Apr Coatesville 62.4 65.4 66 58.5 63.075  
    Apr E Nantmeal 61.9 64.6 64.7 57.4 62.15 -0.925
    May Coatesville 77.4 69.2 73.9 76.9 74.35  
    May E Nantmeal 75.1 66.9 71.2 74.3 71.875 -2.475
    Jun Coatesville 79.2 83 80.2 81.9 81.075  
    Jun E Nantmeal 76.1 80.3 76.9 78.4 77.925 -3.15
    Jul Coatesville 82.3 86.3 87.2 83.8 84.9  
    Jul E Nantmeal 78.5 82.9 84.1 80.8 81.575 -3.325
    Aug  Coatesville 81.8 85.8 85 83.4 84  
    Aug  E Nantmeal 78 82.3 81.8 80.5 80.65 -3.35
    Sep Coatesville 77.1 81.5 73.1 80.1 77.95  
    Sep E Nantmeal 73.5 81 69.3 75.8 74.9 -3.05
    Oct Coatesville 62.4 63.7 64 71.5 65.4  
    Oct E Nantmeal 59.4 63.1 61 68.2 62.925 -2.475
    Nov Coatesville 54.8 57 56.8 51.5 55.025  
    Nov E Nantmeal 53.7 56.2 55.9 49.6 53.85 -1.175
    Dec Coatesville 43.4 38.2 49.8 40.6 43  
    Dec E Nantmeal 42.4 37.8 49 39.5 42.175 -0.825
    Ann Coatesville 61.90833333 62.76666667 64.65833333 63.025 63.08958333  
    Ann E Nantmeal 59.91666667 61.38333333 62.63333333 60.81666667 61.1875 -1.902083333
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
  3. Here's the raw high temp numbers. Take all of Paul's highs this time of year and add 3-4 to get something realistic:

      Jan Jan Feb Feb Mar Mar Apr Apr May May Jun Jun Jul Jul Aug  Aug  Sep Sep Oct Oct Nov Nov Dec Dec Ann Ann
      Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal
    2004 29.9 29.6 40.4 39.9 51.8 50.9 62.4 61.9 77.4 75.1 79.2 76.1 82.3 78.5 81.8 78 77.1 73.5 62.4 59.4 54.8 53.7 43.4 42.4 61.90833333 59.9166667
    2005 36.3 35.7 41.6 41.1 45.2 44.7 65.4 64.6 69.2 66.9 83 80.3 86.3 82.9 85.8 82.3 81.5 81 63.7 63.1 57 56.2 38.2 37.8 62.76666667 61.3833333
    2006 47 46.2 41 40.7 51.9 50.8 66 64.7 73.9 71.2 80.2 76.9 87.2 84.1 85 81.8 73.1 69.3 64 61 56.8 55.9 49.8 49 64.65833333 62.6333333
    2007 43.7 42.4 32.6 32.1 51.8 50.8 58.5 57.4 76.9 74.3 81.9 78.4 83.8 80.8 83.4 80.5 80.1 75.8 71.5 68.2 51.5 49.6 40.6 39.5 63.025 60.8166667
      39.225 38.475 38.9 38.45 50.175 49.3 63.075 62.15 74.35 71.875 81.075 77.925 84.9 81.575 84 80.65 77.95 74.9 65.4 62.925 55.025 53.85 43 42.175 63.08958333 61.1875
        -0.75   -0.45   -0.875   -0.925   -2.475   -3.15   -3.325   -3.35   -3.05   -2.475   -1.175   -0.825   -1.90208333
                                                         
                                                         
                                                         
                                                         
                                                         
                                                         
                                                         
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  4. 7 minutes ago, ChescoWx said:

    Sigh ..Ray why the anger and the name calling. No place for that here. While I am far from a statistical genius it really is not difficult to see that those 2 data points with more than 1500 data points (days) can't be that incredibly close by chance....hence why they are considered to be statistically equivalent. They just cannot be that close by chance Ray....it just is what it is! And it most certainly does NOT suck to me LOL!!!!

    Paul… you’re fighting this is tiresome, that’s why the “name calling”. Your data is simply garbage, like most of your related “climate change” posts. I’ve proven that pretty well just now. But obviously you have an agenda. Obviously if your a rich snob in east nantmeal then I guess overall, it doesn’t suck to be you, but your numbers are trash. Too bad, so sad.

  5. Paul has screamed about the compatibility of his station with others historically. He's pressed me to prove him wrong. Well, here it is:

     

    The closest station to him, Coatesville 2W, overlaps for 4 years from 2004-2007. I think those who've paid attention to him realize he probably runs cold for highs. So here's the average high temperature differences from Coatesville to his station during those 4 years, and they make perfect sense given his shady site.

    Jan -0.75

    Feb -0.45

    Mar -0.875

    Apr -0.925

    May -2.475

    Jun -3.15

    Jul -3.325

    Aug -3.35

    Sep -3.05

    Oct -2.475

    Nov -1.175

    Dec -0.825

    Ann -1.90208

    That pretty much perfectly fits a curve of tree canopy percentage.

  6. 1 minute ago, ChescoWx said:

    I do NOT want to discuss this as we have proven the data and beaten this topic to death! I never discuss it unless someone decides to question the statistical validity of the data presented. If you don't mention it - either will I

    Paul your method is clearly wrong. Besides the poor measurement quality of your own data (way too shaded, does that station EVER get in the sun?), being over 300 feet above West Chester means all comparisons between West Chester and your house are garbage, unless you make a SIGNIFICANT downward adjustment with the West Chester data or a significant UPWARD adjustment of your house. Honestly, the fact you refuse to believe that shows just how either uneducated or biased you are. Like I said, the lack of sense in your posts would have me ban you from the subject, if I had my way. You're either grossly uneducated or grossly trying to support a biased view. Either way, it has no place here.

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  7. Just now, ChescoWx said:

    As we have stated often - the statistical data analytics on my data has proven the data to be statistically valid based on the p-values....it cannot be that close based on chance -hence why we do statistical analysis.

    Paul, its just not. Sorry. You are just dead wrong. Honestly if I had my way I'd ban you from discussing this subject here and at Phillywx.

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  8. "yawn"

    I started arguing with Paul over on Phillywx and the thread got locked. I'm a middle-of-the-roader who scoffs at the ridiculousness of both sides these days. The world isn't going to end from human-induced climate change, but adding CO2 does cause warming. Chester County might not be warming, but Paul's methods are, to put it bluntly, grossly inappropriate, so his so called "non-warming" trends are completely untrustworthy. The fact his signature file is novel-length and totally related his anti-climate change stance is proof enough that his opinions are biased.

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  9. 36 minutes ago, JTA66 said:

    I think I heard San Diego's daily rainfall record is something like .60"? So yeah, even 2"-3" will be their version of Floyd :raining:

    Windows open with a nice breeze coming through the house, 81F/DP 62F.

    Getting OT but remember that San Diego rarely sees rain this time of year.  Their August average is just 0.01".  Their daily record on August 22nd is just a trace, and almost half the days of August have daily records less than 0.10".  Don't get me wrong, there have been a few random gully-washers... the monthly single-day record is 1.80 on August 12, 1873.  But its quite rare. Their all-time daily record is 3.34" on December 2, 1854, followed by 3.23" on April on April 5, 1926. The last time they had over 2" in a day was February 27, 2017.

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  10. 11 hours ago, gravitylover said:

    And the next day it snowed. They had to cancel trick or treating here because it was still sketchy with branches falling and blocked streets with no power. 

    I think you're remembering 2011's snowstorm here. It did snow after Sandy, but not til after Halloween. The damage from the 2011 snowstorm, followed in 2012 by Sandy, probably ruined Halloween 2 years in a row in some places.

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