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Partly to mostly sunny, 65 with a gusty south wind at times.  Beautiful day. I see lots of 50s not to far off in BK, Queens etc, hopefully it doesn't progress any further...

8 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, that’s why the NYC first 80 of spring is usually a few weeks ahead of ISP. Years like 2010 are the exception rather than the rule.

NYC first 80 of spring since 2010

Minimum	04-07 (2010)		09-14 (2012)		140
Mean	04-16		10-03		169
Maximum	05-10 (2014)		10-19 (2016)		183
2018	04-13 (2018)	82	10-10 (2018)	80	179
2017	04-11 (2017)	80	10-10 (2017)	81	181
2016	04-18 (2016)	82	10-19 (2016)	85	183
2015	04-18 (2015)	80	09-29 (2015)	83	163
2014	05-10 (2014)	83	09-28 (2014)	84	140
2013	04-09 (2013)	82	10-04 (2013)	86	177
2012	04-16 (2012)	88	09-14 (2012)	80	150
2011	04-11 (2011)	81	10-10 (2011)	81	181
2010	04-07 (2010)	92	09-25 (2010)	89	170

ISP

Minimum	04-07 (2010)		09-08 (2012)		137
Mean	04-30		09-30		152
Maximum	05-25 (2016)		10-19 (2016)		177
2018	05-02 (2018)	84	09-19 (2018)	80	139
2017	04-16 (2017)	82	10-10 (2017)	81	176
2016	05-25 (2016)	88	10-19 (2016)	84	146
2015	05-12 (2015)	82	09-29 (2015)	81	139
2014	05-11 (2014)	80	09-27 (2014)	82	138
2013	04-09 (2013)	82	10-04 (2013)	82	177
2012	04-16 (2012)	80	09-08 (2012)	80	144
2011	05-25 (2011)	81	10-10 (2011)	83	137
2010	04-07 (2010)	85	09-29 (2010)	80	174

 

 

That chart reminded me of an article I read somewhere a few yrs ago about avg onset of real warmth in the spring. It found one of the most reliable weather events is 80s in mid April. Things like first/last freeze have more variability, but 80 by mid April is pretty reliable.  Of course there is often more cool dreary weather to follow in these parts. 

Its bone dry today. Dew point is -1 here.

35 minutes ago, jfklganyc said:

I was a but surprised by today.

Wind and clouds not giving me the “warm” feel I expected. 

60F

Yeah that dry air will give that extra cool feel.  Dew points in the teens.

Earlier under full sunshine it did feel relatively mild..had to get out earlier before the increasing cloudiness

Wow started as all hail for a min then heavy rain.  No significant wind, lots of lightning.

Outside of sea breezes/back door fronts we overachieve. Need to start taking bets.

70 in central park 

Some breaks of sun now, 69. With a hint of humidity

68 now. imagine if we got a few breaks of sun..

3 hours ago, Dan76 said:

Not for these guy's....middle finger to the cold

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/13/freeport-parrot-nest/

These been around for years. They are known to frequently set up shop in the Bx, mainly in Pelham Bay Park (and adjacent neighborhoods) and on City Island. Also known to nest on major bridges, Throgs Neck, Whitestone, etc.

They get noisy as hell too.

For sun intensity equivalents 

http://windowseat.ca/sun/

March 11 sun equals Oct 1 sun 

7 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

I don't even think I got 3 inches lol

The storm the other morning looked more impressive than last night lol

The warmth was too strong for the coast. 850s were warmer than modeled and it never went below freezing here on the coast.

SNE is getting hammered

Forecasts I saw showed slightly above freezing temps were expected around the city but would be overwhelmed by heavy snow rates at night. Is it the heavy snow never came? Speaking just from my memory, when we count on very heavy snow to overcome temps it usually doesnt materialize. I always take it with a grain of salt. 

I know some people will say.."they closed school for this??"

3 hours ago, HVSnowLover said:

Back to moderate snow here, seems the real heavy stuff is staying SE of the Bronx and focused on LI which is sort what I predicted, still a nice storm but probably will end up a max of around 6 inches  

That what it seem like to me. The real heavy bands flirted with the bx time to time, but really sat over bk, queens and then head east over long island. It looks unimpressive to me considering they closed school. 

5 minutes ago, etudiant said:

NYC Central Park a healthy 2", maybe even a bit more. Plus we still had snow cover from the prior event, so it added nicely and gave a solid cover.

Lots of happy kids on sleds, even a few intrepid cross country skiers.

Enough to enjoy but with minimal effect on travel. Roads just wet with lots of melting now.

47 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

If you use the current posted 30 year averages 1981-2010 in NYC it's 25.8 inches. The 150 year average is 28.8 inches and the average since 1991 which will be the starting period for the new 30 year averages is 30.5 inches.

For all the winter despair, the city has a decent chance ending up just slightly below normal (20"+) in a few days. All the snow on the fringes of winter. 

Biggest snowfall since Nov

Gusting over 40 now at the airports and  Brooklyn mesonet

4 minutes ago, jfklganyc said:

What happened to warm temps today?

I topped our around 46F, 10 degrees below forecast.

Yeah I noticed we never got out of the 40s. I think some breaks of sun were expected. It stayed overcast here.

Heres comes the wind..

26 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

It's a pretty flimsy analogy. Watching a losing team takes time, money, effort, and intention; winter will continue to happen, or not, with zero regard for whether you've declared your participation over. I mean, sure, you could stop looking at the models and posting in winter threads, but if you're here announcing your dissatisfaction on a daily basis, it would seem you're just as invested as ever. The philosophizing just gets brutal after a while... we love snow so much that we hope it doesn't snow any more so we can be angry about not getting enough snow?

I understand the feeling from both sides. I think in a weird way it come down to getting the recognition for enduring a paltry snow season. A suprise moderate snow event in March that washes away as soon as its over would get the city into the mid teens for seasonal snowfall, but it'd still feel like a bad winter for snow lovers. Stastically itd end up being a run of the mill below avg snow season but it felt much worse.

Its kind of like 97-98, with its 0.5" total until a suprise 5" storm in late March took the record of least snowest season ever away. It was all gone by the afternoon too.  People suffered through the whole winter, they want the credit for it lol.

If something credible comes along everyone will get sucked back in though.

1 hour ago, HVSnowLover said:

Yea I get that, I'm not saying its an epic ice storm but for the city any sustained ZR is unusual. It's just odd to see the coastal front set up so close to the coast, upper 30s as you said immediate ocean but 30-32 for northern parts of the city and barely budging  

Yeah still freezing rain here in the bx. 31 now. Didnt get up to 30 degrees until after 10pm. So not major but still noteworthy icing up here. 

4 minutes ago, jfklganyc said:

29F Freezing drizzle for last couple of hours.

Everything is iced over good.

turning out to be more icy than i thought it would be..a burst of mod freezing rain, 29.  Icy espically once you're off the main roadways. 

Getting some ice accretion now

Freezing drizzle 29 degrees

1 hour ago, Snow88 said:

Any measurements around the city ?

1.6" in the Bx, measured by NYBG entrance

11 minutes ago, Cfa said:

Highlighting the lack of snowfall during met winter doesn’t take away from the fact that snow fell in November (met fall), nor the fact that it can snow in March (met spring).

Even including November’s little storm this season is still far below normal for most of us.

My seasonal total stands at 6.1”, with 70% of that coming from the November event (4.3”). 1.8” for DJF so far, not including today’s event.

I dont think ppl should just throw out the Nov snowfall, but I do understand why its worth pointing out. We have only 8 or 9" for the season, but it doesnt even "feel" like that much snow.  It feels virtually snowless when 6"+ of that fell in what some would consider a fluke event 3 months ago. It's statistically valid like any other snowfall but statistics cant tell the whole story. The commentary is what brings the story behind the numbers to life.