Blizzwalker

8 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

It will always be more up there because no one lives there.

We could have gotten more down here if it was colder.

I live here !

Just ending here W of Middletown.  It's like islands of winter within a broader Fall pattern.  Looks like that's the norm we're heading for.  Occasional big storms with long stretches of bare ground.  I was never a "snowpack" guy because I always had one.  Now, I've become one too late.

Watched the SE trend across ALL models. Saw the HRRR about 1115 last nite. Middletown/NW Orange Co was deader than dead.  Up at 8--What a surprise !

My snow light west of Middletown is an exquisitely precise meteorological instrument. 

Assessment: lot a snow in short time.

30 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Cloud inversions are always so cool to experience. Hoping to get some winter hikes in either in the ADK or White Mountains this year. 

Hope u get up to the mountains. Meanwhile, I hope we all get some winter down here !

6 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Was this photo taken from Whiteface?

Taken from summit of Algonquin Peak.

Hoping to fan the flames of enthusiasm for 6 inches NW this Saturday...

Here is snow in NY- Took this of my friend looking at Mt Marcy right before New Years Eve.

1 hour ago, gravitylover said:

So, are we waking up to another coating in the morning? 

Lock it in

23 minutes ago, snywx said:

This winter needs to end already. Big bust incoming up here 

Probably bust -- snow mixing in last half hour just NW Middletown at 750 ft.  Temp has dropped from 38 to 34 in 3 1/2 hours (Wunderground station nearby). Snow appearing a bit earlier than the 11 pm forecast by nws.  We may still get 6 inches up here, which wouldn't be a bust for noaa's recent call.

23 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

oh probably because mild + lots of moisture

probably why my allergies have come early too lol

Seeing the NW thread red, clicking on it and finding a lengthy leaf discussion  ---All part of the fun of a lively (and botanically sensitive) weather forum...

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow I love those deep blue skies!

How high up is that?

 

About 2300 ft. I did saturate the blue a bit.

At Sams Point near Ellenville last Monday.  Snow was found.

Snowing moderately just NW of Middletown. NOAA said flip over to snow supposed to be around 10-- flipped at about 7 PM. About 1/2 inch (?).

5 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Recorded being the key word.
Several mountains there see that routinely several times a year 

 

Sounds correct. Denali in winter, at 20,000 ft, gets the winds well over 100 mph, plus further north. The book "Minus 148" by Art Davidson describes the first winter ascent of Denali in 1967. Did they have accurate means of temp measurement ? -- doubtful. Was it colder than Mt Washington tonite ? Almost certainly. Art and 2 others had to stay in a snow cave they dug at 18000 ft for 3 days until 150 mph winds subsided.

5 minutes ago, jr461 said:

As opposed to most others here who do exactly the opposite.  With his analysis almost always included, I looked forward to a different viewpoint.

It's refreshing amid all the "pattern looks good" and "GFS shows snow in 4 weeks" idiocy with no analysis behind it.  Yet all are ok with that inane repetition.

Some get refreshed by cola, others by beer.  Good to have diverse viewpoints. But there is objective predicting, then there is cheerleading against the collective sentiments of a snow enthusiast group.

5 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

But it literally hasn't snowed. At all. Let him have his moment

And it had snowed for me-- not everyone is snowless.

4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

But it literally hasn't snowed. At all. Let him have his moment

It's not about accuracy of prediction -- it's about systematic bias-- in an unpopular direction.

4 hours ago, snowman19 said:

I get it you hate me. Everytime I post you jump all over me and try to embarrass me. You win, not worth it anymore. I’m done. Not posting in here again. You finally bullied and harassed me away. Not worth the headache anymore, this has been a tit for tat game for years

You don't get it. Systematically, you deliver every possible bit of info suggesting it won't snow, while ignoring info suggesting snow. You have a far greater command of meteorology than me and I respect your knowledge.

But don't expect a good reaction from a forum that looks forward to snow 

NW Orange Drama--

In last half hour west of Middletown, surface temps must have dropped. Snow had changed from wet to fluffy, breeze has picked up, and snow sticking on streets.

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

My wife and I are looking at houses in orange county

Any specific area that's good ?

Minisink area, west of Middletown. Good snow area (not now...). That would be areas of Slate Hill, Greenville, Waywayanda, Otisville, etc.

.1 inch front end thump here west of Middletown....

Chasing snow... 10 days ago near Blackhead Mt in Catskills.

13 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Of course, I don’t necessarily require bitter cold to not feel that depression, but I absolutely do require a seasonal winter vibe. 

I did genuinely enjoy the past several days though; there’s something about real cold air that I find uplifting and refreshing. I can’t really explain it, though admittedly I probably have some wires crossed somewhere .

I’m the sort that would be happy as a clam living and working in Antarctica. 

Many of us on this board feel similarly. I know I feel a definite lowering of mood when it is excessively warm and snowless in winter.  After all, it is a weather site and most of us look forward to winter being wintry. I wasn't always this way. I believe it is a learned behavior--- the improved technology allowing better tracking (sometimes), and beautiful graphics has combined with the aesthetics of snow and ice to weave a beguiling winter web around me. Seeing that  Euro run with the right colors proves to be a dopamine saturated reward.  The drama of storms also contributes. (unless like recent western NY extremes where lives are lost)

In January --dry ground and 48 with no storms calls for prozac.

2 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

This epic pattern is a big failure 

I'm going backpacking in the Catskills for 3 days tomorrow. There's going to be so much snow that even with snowshoes don't know if I will make a summit...

Good antidote for this sh..t, I mean nonsense. I WILL see snow !!

Like everyone, was getting hopes up for 12/22.  "Unreal pattern", "Perfect set-up", "Textbook KU 500", etc.

Now, I feel let down-- but not as much as I used to.  After decades, I'm getting better at appreciating tracking but not so invested that I'm a victim of the bipolar swings.

It hurts when the mega-storm evaporates-- but let us not forget the times that even in marginal patterns we can have big events emerge rather unexpectedly....hope something comes up.