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    December Discussion II

    in New England

    Posted

    10 hours ago, ice1972 said:

    Was there some good December’s though from 2004 for a few or several years?  We moved here in August that year and I remember December not being such a buzzkill as it seems it’s been recently....last December has snow though and that cold....holy S

    There have been a few good Decembers, but I seem to remember more disappointments than wintery months.

    December Discussion II

    in New England

    Posted

    1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said:

    No deal. That would be like taking $100,000 when one million, 500,000 and a 25,000 were left on the board. Gamble on that look. 

    I'll roll the dice going forward this winter that we will score at least two of those 10-15" storms. You'd probably sucker a lot of people taking that bet though because of the frustrating December.  

    I'm not looking at records, but based only on my memory, December in SNE is not usually a snow-filled month for most. Northern MA around Sterling, and the Berks, as well as far NW CT usually do ok, but to me, January and February are winter for most of SNE. Even in a good cold winter, we see a lot of cold weather patterns that get "ruined" by a cutter or two. 

    Fall Banter, Observation and General Discussion 2018

    in New England

    Posted

    First week of December 98 was a true torch by anyone's definition. My first child was born 12/4/98. When it was time to go home, my wife put about 100 layers of clothes on the baby. I said that's way too much, it's warm out. My wife, knowing I love the cold, was less than impressed by my suggestion. The nurses managed to convince my wife that it was indeed in the 70's outside.

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    Michael Banter Thread

    in Tropical Headquarters

    Posted

    Battery backups generally are designed to run for a few minutes. It's possible to daisy chain additional battery packs to some UPS systems, and so long as they are consistently monitored and replaced, you can get about a day of runtime, but it's not an inexpensive endeavor. I believe that's what's used at a lot of cell towers. It would probably be tough to get that sort of funding for weather stations. Just ballparking an estimate, figure $4-5 K plus installation costs to install a UPS battery solution that would run for an hour.

    Hurricane Florence

    in New England

    Posted

    4 hours ago, wxeyeNH said:

    A very good friend of mine, her husband and 2 dogs moved to Mrytle Beach last year.  About 3 or 4 miles inland.  New modest home.  No trees.  They bought a generator last winter when they got an inch or snow and lost power.  They have plenty of gas for it.  They are asking me for advice.  Do they travel hundreds of miles trying to find a hotel or ride it out?  She knows Im a weather geek and asked me to call this eve after looking at the latest models.   My thinking is that if the eyewall comes ashore or partially ashore 50 miles north in the Wilmington area they would at okay at first.  West offshore wind.  By the time the storm drifts SW it would be downgraded somewhat.  So they would definitely loose power but be okay that far inland from major structural damage.  A new home built to code could handle 80-85mph gusts. If I had a new home that far inland I would hesitate to just pack up and leave not knowing when I could return.  

    I'd defer to the NWS. Maybe they'd be OK, but here's the local NWS statement for Myrtle Beach. 

    Hurricane Florence continues to approach the Carolina coast as a
major hurricane. The likelihood of of life-threatening storm surge
inundation, damaging winds, and flooding rainfall across southeastern
North Carolina and northeastern South Carolina continues to increase.
Life-threatening conditions will also continue in the surf zone at
area beaches. The worst conditions are expected to occur later Thursday
into Friday.

POTENTIAL IMPACTS
-----------------

* WIND:
Protect against life-threatening wind having possible devastating
impacts across interior southeastern North Carolina and
coastal northeastern South Carolina. Potential impacts in
this area include:
    - Structural damage can be expected to sturdy buildings, with
      some suffering severe or total destruction. Complete
      destruction of mobile homes and other poorly constructed
      buildings is likely. Damage greatly enhanced by large
      projectiles. Locations may be uninhabitable for a significant
      period of time.
    - Numerous large trees may be snapped or uprooted, along with
      fences and roadway signs gone.
    - Many roads will become unsafe and impassable from large debris.
      Many bridges, causeways, and other elevated roadways will
      become impassable.
    - Extensive power and communications outages can be expected.
    - Many vessels will break free from their moorings.

Also, protect against life-threatening wind having possible extensive
impacts across interior northeast South Carolina.

* SURGE:
Protect against life-threatening surge having possible extensive
impacts across southeastern North Carolina north of Cape Fear.
Potential impacts in this area include:
    - Large areas of deep inundation with storm surge flooding
      enhanced by battering waves. Structural damage to buildings is
      likely, with several potentially washing away. Damage will be
      compounded by floating debris. Some locations may become
      uninhabitable for an extended period.
    - Inundation is likely to impact vulnerable homes along tidal
      creeks and waterways farther inland.
    - Drinking water and sewer services will likely become impacted
      by the storm surge. Surge waters will contain hazardous
      materials.
    - Large sections of coastal roads will become flooded, or
      wash-out altogether.
    - Severe beach erosion is expected with significant dune loss.
      Sands from displaced dunes will likely deposit onto the barrier
      island roads.
    - Major damage to marinas, docks, boardwalks, and piers is
      possible. Many small craft broken away from moorings,
      especially in unprotected anchorages with some lifted onshore
      and stranded inland.
    - Navigation may be difficult, especially near inlets and
      waterways, as some navigational aids may be off station or
      missing. Debris is possible in the waterways and other
      navigable channels.

Also, protect against life-threatening surge having possible
significant impacts across northeastern South Carolina and the
coast of Brunswick County NC.

* FLOODING RAIN:
Protect against life-threatening rainfall flooding having possible
devastating impacts across southeastern North Carolina. Potential
impacts include:
    - Extreme flooding from rainfall may prompt numerous evacuations
      and rescues.
    - Rivers and streams may overwhelmingly overflow their banks with
      deep moving water. Creeks and ditches will become severely
      flooded and contain strong currents.
    - Flood waters may enter numerous structures, and some may become
      uninhabitable or washed away. Road scours or complete road
      failure is likely in many locations, along with the potential
      for sinkholes. Many streets and parking lots will flood, and
      may be impacted by swift, flowing water. Numerous road and
      low-lying bridge closures are likely with some weakened or
      washed away. Driving conditions will be very dangerous.
    - The delivery of drinking water and sewer services may be
      interrupted. Flood waters may be polluted and contain hazardous
      materials.

Protect against life-threatening rainfall flooding having possible
limited to extensive impacts across northeastern South Carolina.

* TORNADOES:
Protect against a tornado event having possible limited impacts
across southeastern North Carolina. Potential impacts include:
    - The occurrence of isolated tornadoes can hinder the execution
      of emergency plans during tropical events.
    - A few places may experience tornado damage, along with power
      and communications disruptions.
    - Tornadoes can cause damage to trees, vehicles, boats, and
      buildings. Unsecured mobile homes and poorly constructed
      structures are particularly vulnerable.

Elsewhere across northeastern South Carolina, little to no impact is
anticipated.

    Hurricane Florence

    in New England

    Posted

    3 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

     There is  no denying that the Carolinas have experienced some bad Tropical systems.   My original post that, whineminster responded to, was referring to the fact that historical precedent indicates anything N of Fl or the Gulf Coast is unlikely to landfall above Cat 2.

    Maybe Florence becomes the anomaly to that but we wait and see. 

    TS Maria, which I think was a Hurricane for a short time, floated around offshore of the NC coast last year, and brought some pretty significant flooding to OBX. A major hurricane making landfall near there could be really bad.

    Hurricane Florence

    in New England

    Posted

    22 hours ago, CT Rain said:

    Not sure yet but probably somewhere inland a bit. No desire to get stuck or to drown. 

    Lol. I didn't think you'd be heading to OBX. It's more of a comment on how fragile of an existence there is down there. OBX is basically a thin strip of land in the middle of the Atlantic. A decent storm surge could have a long lasting effect.

    Hurricane Florence

    in New England

    Posted

    2 hours ago, CT Rain said:

    I'll be down there for it. Wish me luck. 

    Where will you be? Most of OBX is sea level. A moderate storm surge means, I think, that you better be in a safe place because there's nowhere to go. Yikes.Good luck and be safe.

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