oldnorthstate

rain/snow mix in denver.  more melting than sticking at this point.  

had been mostly big fat flakes in by downtown denver.  coating the grass, sidewalks wet.  cars starting to get a little coverage.  flakes now getting smaller as it still comes down pretty hard.  i'm at 5220'

4 hours ago, PressureDrop2017 said:

There wasn't a global flood within the timeframe of Christianity (or Mesopotamian civilization for that matter). The 'Noah' myth can be traced back to Sumerian mythology, and the most likely origin of that was: the simple observation of geological strata ... ancient people could find seashells in eroded inland locations, and infer correctly that those regions must once have been underwater. Natural fact in search of an explanation, in pre-scientific times... and the 'flood' as a traditional teaching eventually made it into writing in Mesopotamian clay tablets  

but Jesus. 

9 hours ago, the ghost of leroy said:

Yeah. Stealing all those luxury items from family dollar. 

seriously...black people in wilmington have been dealing with white folks looting for centuries.  hell, the white folks even overthrew the government when they didn't like how it was going.       that doesn't even mention how the government's last tax bill was essentially even more looting of the coffers of the poor.    instead of saying gosh, what a shame, we might want to see why these people who are poor beyond your belief might think looting some diapers out of a family dollar is the thing to do.

1 minute ago, hazwoper said:

I don't think you realize that in these cases "mandatory" does not mean what you think it means.  No one is drug out of their homes.  No one has police officers at their door saying "get out or you are under arrest".  If someone cannot physically evacuate, they wont.  stop being so naive...

wow, you're being naive...  people want to believe their public officials.  even if you're really poor, when the governor tells you to evacuate, you're going to consider it.  simply saying no because you're really poor isn't always the way it goes.  good gosh!      The costs of mandatory evacuations go way beyond whether a cop is coming to your door or not.  omg please stop talking. 

5 minutes ago, Lady Di said:

Alright, I'll bite..   Rita.  111 deaths DURING the evacuation.  There wasn't enough time.  Now,  public officials that you elect make the call for a mandatory evac so why are you here spewing about it?  This is a weather site.

this is a weather discussion.  thanks.  

37 minutes ago, sauss06 said:

Think about people who lack preparation. They die you jackass. 

I'm a jackass?  That seems inappropriate.

People die evacuating.  People die because of bad evacuation decisions made by politicians in election years.  

The coasts of the Carolinas have some of the poorest people in the country inhabiting the land.  Do you know this?  I do, very well.  A mandatory evacuation is a huge deal for them.  It's not a big deal for rich vacationing northerner invading the OBX or whatever for a week, but for those living in poverty, evacuation orders are a really big deal. And when they are this widespead, early, and wrong, it's an even bigger deal.

Also to the board "queen?", i never referred to this storm as a bust.  Reading is fundamental. 

i'm going to tell you again to stop.  you are being a bully and troll and i will report you for your rude behavior. 

3 minutes ago, mappy said:

looks to be? the storm is still ongoing. Wilmington had a record 105 gust at their airport. you have no idea what is or isn't damaged. please stop. 

https://livestormchasing.com/stream/charles.peek

i do have some idea actually.  

I'll add that these mandatory evacuations a week out and media reports of doom should also get some blame here.  People hear that the world is about to end only to realize that nothing close to what they were told would happen is happening.     As noted earlier, people get in basements in flooding situations, so the a bigger problem is that people are just stupid and don't understand the power of water.    If the media hyped up the flooding threat inland a week out like everything else, perhaps that might change.    We also need politicians to stop evacuating everything during the middle of election seasons so to protect their political brand.    South Carolina evacuated the whole coast, think about that.   We're talking about some of the poorest people around, and where are they to go?  How?   The governor of South Carolina should be thrown out of office for what he did.  Pure political theatre. 

2 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Many many people being interviewed saying they left shelters and returned home yesterday once the storm started getting downgraded. These same folks are saying this is the worst devastation they have ever seen and rescue efforts are non stop. This is not the NHC fault imo BUT I do think the old saffir Simpson scale needs to be retired. As a met community WE understand it and WE understand surge etc and how a Cat 1 can often be as devastating as a Cat 3-4 but Joe Public hears downgrade and assumes the all clear has been sounded. Just my $.02 irt to SS

yeah, except that the damage in wilmington looks to be fairly minimal.  the saffir simpson scale did just what it was supposed to do.

getting people out of the way of water is a different story and isn't something limited to hurricanes.  

virginia had a mandatory evacuation starting at 8 AM on Tuesday.

think about how ridiculous this is and how this impacts future storms and when there actually may be trouble.  

good advice.

oh wait, what the **** are you talking about?

ok, but america failed this hurricane.  mass hysteria two weeks out is a bad idea.

wonder how many lives are lost during the needless evacs?     

SMH.

this is going to be the fake news hurricane that breaks the camel's back.  think millions are going to keep evacuating absurdly early going forward?  

or maybe i'm pissed my flight was cancelled because nobody ever really knows where these things are going, and yet we get the same thing we get every single year.  WORST HURRICANE EVER COMING!!!  

sunny and 10 mph winds and we can't fly because foxnews and cnn scared everybody.  

you mean a cat 5 isn't going to hit the Carolinas afterall?  no ****ing way...

On 9/10/2018 at 1:07 PM, oldnorthstate said:

So, I have a flight scheduled to land at RDU Thursday 4 AM.    How are my chances looking of that flight happening?

this flight has been cancelled.  are you f'n kidding me?

So, I have a flight scheduled to land at RDU Thursday 4 AM.    How are my chances looking of that flight happening?