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25 minutes ago, cleetussnow said:

Let me get this straight:

4 to 5 feet of snow

70 MPH winds

wind chills to -25

That is weather porn that not even The late James from Harwich could dream up.  

I know it's for a relatively small, (though highly populated) area, but Buffalo's forecast through early Christmas might be the single craziest one I've ever read for a non-mountainous area.  Certainly for any well-populated area.  What they've experienced today alone is insane.  I hope everyone stays safe out there.

2 minutes ago, Johnno said:

Woodford VT should clean up

Tiny town, but you're right, they do in most setups. I think they're over 2000' too. 

21 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

Washington county always gets the shaft 

Frequently shadowed off the Greens. Many apply it to Alb too, but they rarely shadow much unless it's a screaming east wind. The 'Dacks through the Greens should really clean up with this one.

It isn't much compared to what some of those experienced last month in Western NY, but there was a nice little storm for those of us in eastern areas of Upstate yesterday.  Around 7" here, and 6.6" officially in ALB I believe.  It was roughly a 12-hour event, with rates briefly tickling around an inch per hour at its height.  Just enough to make the roads messy, but also enough to help get into the holiday mood.  

Moderate to heavy snow all day here so far.  Albany with an impressive 5 straight hours of heavy snow, w/ gusts over 30mph the past two.  Nice to see after a crap winter there.

4 minutes ago, Tolland Death Band said:

Respect for and recognition of the soaring, majestic spires of the Tolland Massif is somewhat of a recent phenomenon in CT wx forecasting

I spent my first 21 years growing up in the hills of Western CT, and until I joined the old Eastern board years ago, had no idea the hills got that high in Tolland County.  

Hopefully we can keep this SE (for Eastern Upstate), as temps will be marginal here as it is. I know WNY doesn't want that however. Aside from this weekend's storm, we currently have moderate snow outside here now. It's accumulating on grass and cars, but nothing on the roads yet.

3 hours ago, Buffalo Bumble said:

Ice blocks along the Ausable River are amazing. Some are over 6 feet tall and plowed over trees along their journey. 
 

That's an impossibly beautiful location around there.  It's one of my favorite places to visit, and I'm blessed it's such a short drive from home.  About 8" total at home here.  We still have a long way to go to salvage the season here in ENY, but this was nice.  Gusty winds this evening, with blowing and drifting snow.  The night has a nice, deep winter feel to it tonight.

Heavy snow tapering off.  I'm working just outside of Albany today, and it looks like about 6" or so.  They had a several hour period of heavy snow, and it's been all snow so far. NAM didn't do a bad job overall, but at least for here, it was a little too aggressive with the warmth.  This has been a quick mover though, so it looks like we'll only realize the lower end of most forecasts.  Even so, this would be their heaviest snowfall in what has been a pathetic season for them.

11 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

Years ago there was a late season storm that dropped 2”+ of sleet in Greenfield and roads were a disaster. 

The 2"+ of sleet (mixed with freezing rain) we had here just to your west a couple weeks ago was more disruptive than 8-12" of snow. It was compounded by the Arctic airmass immediately following the storm. I went out to the driveway towards the end of the storm, tapped the mass of ice with my shovel once or twice, and went right back inside. 

This area has been pretty locked in the past couple days for the first time this season. Still think a general 6-10" will work, with maybe a few areas up to 12" if everything breaks right.  It's not dumping a ton of moisture and ratios won't be the best, but should still be our best storm in over a year.

17 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said:

I speak for @yankees102110when I say we support this solution.

Climo out this way for a SWFE is fairly similar to much of New England, with a pretty straightforward 6-10" for most.  Quick in and quick out, unless the Mohawk-Hudson convergence can set up, depending on low level winds and when/where the secondary takes over.  It would easily be the best event of the season for most of us in Eastern areas however.  

1 hour ago, BGM Blizzard said:

Nah, 105.0 at kbgm for 2020-21. Didnt even crack the top 10 (15th).

Kaly finished below avg.

This will be KALB's 4th straight below average snowfall season I believe, with 7 out of the last 10 being below average.  The 3 that were "above" were only marginally above.  A few extreme storms can't erase the overall string of bad luck it's been on, and it looks like SYR has joined them.  Some of Upstate's biggest storms have occurred in March, so maybe we can make up some ground then.

1 minute ago, Ericjcrash said:

Yeah, Albany proper is a snow hellhole. I'm at 28"ish. Garbage but considerably better than them. I'm working across the street from the airport right now(leaving jobsite) and it's actually snowing lol.

Compared to much of Upstate NY it is.  It does better than the Hudson Valley area, and maybe Elmira?  When I moved up here from CT I was actually surprised at how well it does in terms of snow given its location.  Hearing relatives from other parts of Upstate talk about it, you'd think it never snows here.  The capital region in general averages 60-65", better than most non-mountainous and non-lake effect cities in the country.  I guess it depends on one's expectations, lol.  You've done a little better than I have this season though, as I'm around 23"-ish.

6 minutes ago, BGM Blizzard said:

Albany now in last place both in YtD snowfall and YtD actual as % of YtD avg.

 

BUF - 73.5 YtD, 65.1 avg, 112.9%

ROC - 61.5 YtD, 63.0 avg, 97.6%

SYR - 46.7 YtD, 81.2 avg, 57.5%

BGM - 39.1 YtD, 50.6 avg, 77.3%

ALB - 17.1 YtD, 34.6 avg, 49.4%

Looks like it gets progressively worse from West to East across NYS.  BGM might be a slight anomaly due to the airport's high elevation relative to other cities, as well as to downtown Binghamton.  Isn't the airport something like 1600'+ while downtown is around 800-900'?  That would sort of be like Albany's official weather records being recorded on the Helderberg Escarpment (Thatcher Park, around 1000') instead of where the airport currently is at around 300'.  Either way, I know it's hard to pick a spot that is truly representative of that area due to the frequent elevation changes. 

I will say, however, we've had pretty consistent snow cover since early January despite the low snowfall.  That's a departure from the previous couple winters where we've had a couple big storms, but bigger warmups too.  The 2"+ of sleet that fell the other day should give this some extra staying power too.

24 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

I just saw that Albany only has 17.1 inches for the winter.

 

That's crazy

Heavier snows have fallen to their west, east, and south this season. Reminiscent of several years ago when we couldn't buy consistent coastal huggers for several seasons. In any case, Syracuse east through western new England have struggled this year.

2 hours ago, Ericjcrash said:

Past 3 hours have really saved this event. High ratio fluff on top of that sleet on top of water logged surviving pack.

I agree.  Between the sleet and afternoon snow, I ended up with a net gain after all the rain yesterday.  But it's going to be a mess trying to clear the secondary roads and driveways until temps warm up some after the weekend.

A glaze to .1" of frz rain, followed by at least 2" of pure sleet has made up the majority of this forgettable mess.  Roads are still bad.  Back down into the teens with light snow falling.  

5 minutes ago, PerintonMan said:

No? The heavy stuff just north of the mix line is actually still sleet?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I can confirm the blue over me in Saratoga County is still sleet.  Maybe some mangled snowflakes mixed in?  I'm certainly not sticking my face up into the sky to find out without eye protection.

Been out and about in the Saratoga area, and it's absolutely pouring sleet.  I've never seen sleet this hard.  Complete scalping.  The roads may be worse than if this were an actual heavy snowfall.  Complete waste of precip, but at least it's unique.  Brings me back to the old days growing up in CT when many a beautiful snowstorms were ruined by that dreaded pinging sounds to let you know that rain was just around the corner.

11 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said:

I'm in Glens Falls and it is raining too. Its snowing at home per webcam 

Fronts slowly moving from west to east, so I imagine I'll switch over by early this evening.

10 minutes ago, sferic said:

Aviation mall still there?

Indeed it is still there. 

39 with moderate rain. The small glacier of a snowpack is finally giving in.

31 minutes ago, rochesterdave said:

Very high confidence storm at this point. Almost no limiting factors for the 3 thruway cities. 

You're more confident than I am. I would say KALB is about as low confidence as there is, even moreso than my location. This is a day I'm very glad this isn't my job . I do agree the other I-90 thruway cities are much easier though, especially west of Utica. This should be fantastic for your particular location too!

Here are the current forecasted totals for Upstate NY, with the dividing line cutting right through it.  Much more uniform totals over Central and Western NY.  Saratoga County alone is 4"-18".  If that's mostly sleet at the southern end of the county, that could be equal impact to those higher snow totals in the northern end.  Still 38 with light rain at the moment.