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7 minutes ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said:

 

I’d be interested to see what everyone around here considers a big one. Here’s our top 20 snowfalls. List was last updated 2011... I don’t believe 2014 would of cracked the list from KBUFs standpoint. Two big things stand out to me...
1. It only takes a 16” snowfall to make the top 20 list over 129 seasons of record. Think about it this past snowstorm we had I believe the 24 hour total came in at 12.7” that’s only 3.5” off from a top 20 snowfall!
2. Take a look at the top of the list... The majority of the 20” plus snowfalls all took place in our life time. Maybe somethings up? Maybe we just got spoiled? I think we all just have super high expectations of what the big one should be after 2014...

Thoughts???




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Variance is the bastard of life. The Metro needs almost a perfect wind so it's not that surprising it doesn't get that many big events.  South Cheektowaga and West Seneca are close to the metro but just that little bit gives them a lot more flexibility which only keeps increasing the further south you go until you hit ski country

11 minutes ago, rochesterdave said:

21” being reported near Hamilton Ontario. Lake effect

99% sure that's supposed to be 21cm and someone made a mistake reporting it as inched

30 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said:

He's better than any republican.  We havent found a better alternative democrat that has a chance to win so I vote for him, somewhat reluctantly....

Anyone running for Gov for republicans is hardly a "real" republican though lol, generally speaking.

3 minutes ago, mattny88 said:

i think for giggles and as a friendly contest...we should all create our own snow maps and see who ends up closest to the tallies that will come from this storm

I'm thinking 11 inches by me in south cheektowaga(william and union) based on nothing scientific at all since I'm very new to all of this.

4 minutes ago, WesterlyWx said:

If the lakes still open then which is kind of doubtful after all this incoming cold, we’d be buried alive. Perfect SW flow with -30C 850s! 

While Erie isn't crazy deep like the other lakes but it's still 200 feet deep out by long point and while a lot of the western parts will ice up pretty fast it takes a awhile longer to freeze the eastern side in the higher depth parts. 

8 minutes ago, CNY-WXFREAK said:

what did you get in Nov?  Had to be close no?

not even remotely close by me in South Cheektowaga. 5 inches or so if I remember correctly 

51 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Agreed. I try to follow the 6 hour guideline as close as possible, however with strong LES events it gets tough. Most of us have work, school, etc... so sometimes its tough to get a really accurate figure. 

https://www.weather.gov/gsp/snow

Measure and record the greatest amount of snowfall that has accumulated on your snowboard (wooden deck or ground if board is not available) since the previous snowfall observation. This measurement should be taken minimally once-a-day but can be taken up to four times a day, (every 6 hours) and should reflect the greatest accumulation of new snow observed (in inches and tenths, for example, 3.9 inches) since the last snowfall observation. Snowfall amounts can be measured hourly or at any interval as long as the snow measurement board is NOT cleared more frequently than once every 6 hours

I believe you posted back in the Nov 2014 storm thread some pictures and one was you shoveling that really showed just how much all the snow compacted(if not you someone did lol). I plow parking lots by south cheektowaga/west seneca area and it was just crazy how I could look at some places I didn't do at all just trying to keep open what I needed to keep up  and compare it to what I plowed earlier. I knew the snow compacted on its own weight but that really showed me just how much it can 

15 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

Yea until a wave moves up an arctic front and they are celebrating 30-1 ratios lol Then it is "real" snow..

I personally can't stand that because you end up getting nothing but blowing snow making it pretty terrible for driving. I have no clue if they get as much wind in NE making it not so much of a issue

59 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

 Hmm, I have had better snow cover than her. But, again, probably because of lack of les.

She sure is a committed lady. My friends here were discussing that the reason her totals are so high is because she is constantly measuring, compared to many others who have measured after some compaction has occurred.

It's really crazy how much you can increase totals with short measuring times, even more so when rhourly rates are high and/or low ratio snows

7 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I think there are 6 of us in Erie county with a population of around a million. Not one member joined during November 2014. Embrace the winter Buffalonians!! 

 

I didn't join then but that was actually when I became a lurker over here and pretty much just would read everything during winter

1 hour ago, TugHillMatt said:

I think the plow guys are getting restless here in Redfield. Just heard them go by. Other than some light snow this afternoon, we haven't had anything new since they plowed this morning.

They are ready for some fun action!

i know i have been here in buffalo

lake Erie was 41 back in 2001 when Buffalo got those insane multiple days of lake effect and right now Erie sits at 40 but with this warm weather might bump it up to 41 or keep it even at 40 by Christmas. Dec might be a little disappointing but the Lake is still plenty warm for some big time bands in Jan

2 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said:

 

I know this is at a different location but a strange 5 degree temp rise on Saturday... maybe some upwelling?



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Very strange since I just looked and the official water temp at buffalo and it has been 43 since Nov 27th and today went to 44. The temp is also measured at 30 feet so I have no idea what is going on with that graph.

12 hours ago, WNash said:

A warmer is better than a cooler lake, but the lake cools down so quickly in the fall that it would take a very rare early cold snap or a very warm late fall for it to make any difference in LES.

true, come jan it's not much of a difference but can spice up Nov and Dec or thats what I tell myself to stay positive

The 90+ weather doesn't agree with me at all but look on the bright side come fall/winter when we have a nice warm lake primed for some nice lake effect. I think Erie is close to record temps at 74, 75 being the record I believe.