evaporativecooler

On 7/14/2018 at 11:07 AM, anotherman said:

Too early?


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Winter is already here though, just not at our latitude. Insolation is declining every day and snowcover is at most a couple of weeks away from beginning it's inexorable advance south from Ellesmere Island and other birthing places in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. If anything it's too late, and June 21st would've been more appropriate. 

Disregarding speculation about this year's ENSO, we have some interesting signs across the board in the Atlantic domain, which has all but flipped from last year with strong trades and persistant + NAO. Would be interesting to see how analogs work out. 

2 hours ago, Sophisticated Skeptic said:

 

It is difficult when so much legitimate data is being kept/hid/restricted from the public the last several years.   Especially when an amateur makes an alarming discovery....they then decide to restrict / moderate data before it's officially released.

oh yea, and when will NASA update us on the cloud top lowering trends...?  i'm guessing never.   Since most are now experiencing 0 vis fog / whiteout conditions during severe storms.  

no big deal..no need to let public know the truth.

I work in this field, it's not that hidden. Here are some helpful links:

Sea Ice Thickness, freeboard, + lots of extras if you know how to plot netCDF

https://n5eil01u.ecs.nsidc.org/ICEBRIDGE/RDEFT4.001/

http://data.seaiceportal.de/gallery/index_new.php?lang=en_US&active-tab1=method&active-tab2=satellite

http://www.cpom.ucl.ac.uk/csopr/seaice.html

Good general reference:

https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/

Arctic weather forecasts:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=nhem&pkg=z500a&runtime=2018010212&fh=-12

Jesus Christ this is the worst thread on this board, someone needs to clean up for sure. Arctic sea ice measurement and dynamics is a legitimate science not some political football. It deserves a quality discussion. 

Don't have to guess around about Arctic sea ice thickness anymore these days. Cryosat is pretty damn reliable as far as freeboard goes. This year doesn't look so bad in the central Arctic. Linky: http://cryosat.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/qa/freeboard.php

2017 November 10th to Dec 9th

2016 15th Nov to 14th Dec

2012 6th November to 5th December