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MO/KS/AR/OK 2020-2021 "Winter" Discussion

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7 minutes ago, MUWX said:

More outages now. Looks like parts of Springfield are starting to go down now based on the City utility website. 

Been getting emails here from the local coop asking people for help and to turn off everything possible cause of the same reasons! This is not good. This area is just not use to cold extremes like this, does look to start warming up a bit during the daytime here soon though.

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Local news just confirmed that springfield has started rolling blackouts. They are on their own power company, but I assume the rest of the region will be following suit. 

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Ignore my previous post. lol looks like the kuchera ratio was actually closer to actual amounts here. I took a measurement in a bad location in my back yard. I just went out to get a more accurate reading and showing 7" - others in the Russellville area are showing 7 and its still snowing. 

2.15.2021 snow storm.jpg

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Evergy, who serves the eastern half of Kansas/western half of Missouri, announced they would be instituting rolling black outs in their coverage zone as well...

As per SPP guidelines... Going to be an interesting next couple days for many. 

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3 minutes ago, jojo762 said:

Evergy, who serves the eastern half of Kansas/western half of Missouri, announced they would be instituting rolling black outs in their coverage zone as well...

As per SPP guidelines... Going to be an interesting next couple days for many. 

It is past time to modernize the power grid. There is no way we should be faced with rolling blackouts in the middle of an historic cold outbreak. 

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Just now, rockchalk83 said:

It is past time to modernize the power grid. There is no way we should be faced with rolling blackouts in the middle of an historic cold outbreak. 

Supply and demand issue more than anything. 

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6 minutes ago, rockchalk83 said:

It is past time to modernize the power grid. There is no way we should be faced with rolling blackouts in the middle of an historic cold outbreak. 

You are correct my friend 

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Snowing pretty good up here. Over an inch so far. Hearing a transformer knocked out over 2k in Clay Co. So far so good here with power.  

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12 minutes ago, KC Storm said:

Snowing pretty good up here. Over an inch so far. Hearing a transformer knocked out over 2k in Clay Co. So far so good here with power.  

Ok for now, +SN -5F, we got an overperformer today

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Just now, Solution Man said:

Ok for now, +SN -5F, we got an overperformer today

For sure. Looks like the comma head may even try to pivot through. Especially out your way. Nice little surprise. 

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41 minutes ago, rockchalk83 said:

It is past time to modernize the power grid. There is no way we should be faced with rolling blackouts in the middle of an historic cold outbreak. 

Honestly it has nothing to do with being modernized our not. ERCOT plants run on fuels that don't do well in sustained cold because honestly, they don't really need to (usually). Nuclear or coal would be the answer right now... good luck getting approval for those. 

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14 minutes ago, rockchalk83 said:

New NAM 12km model rolling in...system looks to be a little stronger but neutral to a slight positive tilt. Higher totals for S KS. 

Curious what the SLR's might be on this next system. 

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15 minutes ago, rockchalk83 said:

New NAM 12km model rolling in...system looks to be a little stronger but neutral to a slight positive tilt. Higher totals for S KS. 

Regular Nam looks great for your area. I'm interested as the NAM was the only one with the comma up here today. Looks like it maybe onto one last hurrah with it tomorrow night.  

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New Winter Storm Warning issued by Tulsa mentions the power grid issue.

202 PM CST Mon Feb 15 2021

...WIND CHILL WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM CST TUESDAY...
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 6 AM CST
THURSDAY...

* WHAT...Dangerously cold wind chills thru Tuesday morning. Wind
  chills as low as 20 below zero. Moderate to heavy snow expected
  late Tuesday into Wednesday. Total snow accumulations of 4 to 9
  inches.

* WHERE...Portions of east central, northeast and southeast
  Oklahoma and northwest and west central Arkansas.

* WHEN...For the Wind Chill Warning, until 9 AM CST Tuesday. For
  the Winter Storm Warning, from noon Tuesday to 6 AM CST
  Thursday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult. The very cold wind
  chills could cause frostbite on exposed skin in as little as 30
  minutes.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Due to unusual demand on the electrical
  system across the region...rolling blackouts are possible. We
  are encouraged to find ways to conserve power over the next few
  days until the arctic cold leaves.

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21 minutes ago, rockchalk83 said:

New NAM 12km model rolling in...system looks to be a little stronger but neutral to a slight positive tilt. Higher totals for S KS. 

Wow, NAM has been pretty consistent pulling that moisture farther north and its holding steady, even more so on this run. Even NAM3k is showing this now, after 12Z run kept moisture southeast of ICT.  I started seeing signs from a couple other models trending toward it. That would really cap off a pretty memorable 2 week stretch of winter weather around here!

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Road conditions have declined markedly over the past hour and a half in the KC metro as a moderate band of snow continues to persist... Roads look pretty bad from my 11th floor view.

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Liberty Utilities is also doing rolling blackouts. Springfield NWS says Joplin got 4" but I don't know about that. Somewhere between 4-7" has been reported. Also they are going with additional snow of 2-6" Tues night (most being their S and SE counties)

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21 minutes ago, Solution Man said:

Picked up around 3 today and still snowing moderately 

Great over performer here. That comma head is all cold smoke. The Kutchie maps are going to be solid maybe even a bit underdone in this area. 

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