MD Snow Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: If only lol. My yard needs an over-performer badly. This may represent ratio's a little better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, MD Snow said: This may represent ratio's a little better... Yea and if anything a bit underdone especially N MD and PA. Some good 2-4" totals near the Mason-Dixon with that map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 In set ups like this, the Catoctin Mts. can jackpot easily. They are close to 2,000 ft. in elevation near Penn Mar / Cascade and don't suffer from virga like us low-landers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, MD Snow said: This may represent ratio's a little better... That tells me all I need to know...I’m not getting anything. Ok I can move on with my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Snow Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: In set ups like this, the Catoctin Mts. can jackpot easily. They are close to 2,000 ft. in elevation near Penn Mar / Cascade and don't suffer from virga like us low-landers. Encouraging to see the NAM's come in good tonight. They even seem to get some coastal enhancement and bring a decent band through east of 95 tomorrow afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Snow Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: In set ups like this, the Catoctin Mts. can jackpot easily. They are close to 2,000 ft. in elevation near Penn Mar / Cascade and don't suffer from virga like us low-landers. 3k seems to jackpot the areas you're talking about. Parr's ridge as well... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: In set ups like this, the Catoctin Mts. can jackpot easily. They are close to 2,000 ft. in elevation near Penn Mar / Cascade and don't suffer from virga like us low-landers. I live about 15 min. From cascade. It's definitely different once you get up there. I could see them getting 3" up there with surrounding areas around 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, Chris78 said: I live about 15 min. From cascade. It's definitely different once you get up there. I could see them getting 3" up there with surrounding areas around 1. We love driving up there. We go to Cascade all the time then drive up to the old hang glider spot. You can see everything so beautifully. Fishing at Rt. Ritchie is pretty nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: We love driving up there. We go to Cascade all the time then drive up to the old hang glider spot. You can see everything so beautifully. Fishing at Rt. Ritchie is pretty nice too. Lol. We had our wedding at ft. Richie on the dock by the lake. I believe the glider spot your talking about is called high rock. I can see high rock on the side of the mountain from my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, Chris78 said: Lol. We had our wedding at ft. Richie on the dock by the lake. I believe the glider spot your talking about is called high rock. Yup. We love going up during weather like this. Feeling a -15 degree wind chill and standing on that sheer drop is so exhilarating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chris78 said: Lol. We had our wedding at ft. Richie on the dock by the lake. I believe the glider spot your talking about is called high rock. I can see high rock on the side of the mountain from my house I went up there last week and it was like a war zone at about 1500 feet as icicles were falling off the trees. I cannot stand the cold like Eskimo is suggesting though. More of a summer time stop for us. Great view of Whitetail after dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, bubbler86 said: I went up there last week and it was like a war zone at about 1500 feet as icicles were falling off the trees. I cannot stand the cold like Eskimo is suggesting though. More of a summer time stop for us. Great view of Whitetail after dark. Really nice up there. Gotta be careful though. Had a relative fall from there a few years back. He didn't make it unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, Chris78 said: Really nice up there. Gotta be careful though. Had a relative fall from there a few years back. He didn't make it unfortunately. That is terrible...and yes it is dangerous. No kids or pets should be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 0Z RGEM is pretty lame. Maybe an inch for the favored areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 latest HRRR is pretty tasty: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32º Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 59 minutes ago, bubbler86 said: I went up there last week and it was like a war zone at about 1500 feet as icicles were falling off the trees. I cannot stand the cold like Eskimo is suggesting though. More of a summer time stop for us. Great view of Whitetail after dark. Hang Gliding that ridge provides a new perspective on weather. This time of year with snow cover, the air is as smooth as glass with no thermal convection lifting off from below. You stay up by tracking down the ridge in the region where the wind is ascending over the mountain. On a hot, dry August afternoon, air flow over the valley can be more vertical than horizontal thrusting you all the way to cloud base if you circle within a "thermal" core. Yet as evening starts to settle in and shadows grow, you might descend through a boundary where turbulence suddenly disappears and the decoupled air feels still and buoyant as the last heat of the day slowly leaves the ground. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: latest HRRR is pretty tasty: Haven’t paid too close attention to the HRRR for this but that’s considerably better than an earlier run I quickly looked at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 We look to be 85% where the snow gets made but it’s so cold every flake accumulates. This might last 9-12 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Solution Man said: High ratios there, cool Maybe. Colder does not always equal high ratios. When it gets too cold, columns and needles become the predominant flake type. At onset, it’ll likely be around 10°F with around a 0°F dew point. And with a column as cold as it is with limited moisture transport, I’d guess those flake types will predominate. For example, last week in VT, it was snowing just on either side of 0°F with 30 dBZ returns and, for the first 6 hours of the storm, the snow ratios were 9:1. Only after 6+ hours of a southerly 70kt jetstreak above 800mb did enough moisture transport in from the south to change the flake type. It was 0°F at the surface but jumped 22°F in the snow growth zone and ratios jumped to 15:1. This little impulse is just not that dynamic. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, das said: Maybe. Colder does not always equal high ratios. When it gets too cold, columns and needles become the predominant flake type. At onset, it’ll likely be around 10°F with around a 0°F dew point. And with a column as cold as it is with limited moisture transport, I’d guess those flake types will predominate. For example, last week in VT, it was snowing just on either side of 0°F with 30 dBZ returns and, for the first 6 hours of the storm, the snow ratios were 9:1. Only after 6+ hours of a southerly 70kt jetstreak above 800mb did enough moisture transport in from the south to change the flake type. It was 0°F at the surface but jumped 22°F in the snow growth zone and ratios jumped to 15:1. This little impulse is just not that dynamic. Excellent point. I think some people automatically assume that super cold air will automatically equal 15:1 or better ratios. I bet it’s about 12:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreWxGuy Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: latest HRRR is pretty tasty: Maybe for you lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, das said: Maybe. Colder does not always equal high ratios. When it gets too cold, columns and needles become the predominant flake type. At onset, it’ll likely be around 10°F with around a 0°F dew point. And with a column as cold as it is with limited moisture transport, I’d guess those flake types will predominate. For example, last week in VT, it was snowing just on either side of 0°F with 30 dBZ returns and, for the first 6 hours of the storm, the snow ratios were 9:1. Only after 6+ hours of a southerly 70kt jetstreak above 800mb did enough moisture transport in from the south to change the flake type. It was 0°F at the surface but jumped 22°F in the snow growth zone and ratios jumped to 15:1. This little impulse is just not that dynamic. One reason I have been calling for higher ratios is this exact point...cold air will be retreating, at 850, when the precip arrives or shortly there after. CTP is actually throwing around 25-1 ratios. 850 temps will be in the upper teens and low 20's if I saw the prog correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Man Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, das said: Maybe. Colder does not always equal high ratios. When it gets too cold, columns and needles become the predominant flake type. At onset, it’ll likely be around 10°F with around a 0°F dew point. And with a column as cold as it is with limited moisture transport, I’d guess those flake types will predominate. For example, last week in VT, it was snowing just on either side of 0°F with 30 dBZ returns and, for the first 6 hours of the storm, the snow ratios were 9:1. Only after 6+ hours of a southerly 70kt jetstreak above 800mb did enough moisture transport in from the south to change the flake type. It was 0°F at the surface but jumped 22°F in the snow growth zone and ratios jumped to 15:1. This little impulse is just not that dynamic. Thanks for the information, much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, BaltimoreWxGuy said: Maybe for you lol You need to move. Come up to Reisterstown. We have plenty of homes for sale and 700' + elevation, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, BaltimoreWxGuy said: Maybe for you lol Of course. Is anyone really looking at anyone elses location? Snow is an IMBY game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreWxGuy Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: You need to move. Come up to Reisterstown. We have plenty of homes for sale and 700' + elevation, But I like waterfront bars lol. Just sucks being on the bay in winter in terms of snow. Not even at 10 inches yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 That nice blob in Ohio is moving e-ese. This one has to be watched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 That nice blob in Ohio is moving e-ese. This one has to be watched.Thanks for letting us know we might be getting snow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ji said: 6 minutes ago, WEATHER53 said: That nice blob in Ohio is moving e-ese. This one has to be watched. Thanks for letting us know we might be getting snow More than is being thought and you will be all cheerful and smiley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Snow Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ji said: 10 minutes ago, WEATHER53 said: That nice blob in Ohio is moving e-ese. This one has to be watched. Thanks for letting us know we might be getting snow He probably thinks it’s headed for hattaras and gonna pull a jan 25 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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