Santa Claus

4 minutes ago, Chet-NYC said:

I come to this site whenever there is the potential for a large storm to hit NYC, usually snow events.  I love that I can see here maps and predictions that aren't on the regular commercial weather sites or on television.   However, there one thing that bothers me about many of the posts- the cheering on and wish for bigger, heavier, more damaging storms and snow totals.

Sure, I understand the amazement of a large snow storm.  I used to feel the same way.  Then came January 1996 and the morning I woke up to a 40" snow drift that forced me to climb out a window because my front door was blocked.  It took two days to clear snow from my car.  It took weeks for the National Guard and NYC Sanitation to get the mountains of snow here on Staten Island out of the way.   While under 20" fell in Central Park,  on Staten Island, about 15 -16 miles south, we were in that small band where about 30" fell.    There were parking lots that still had small snow mountains in May that year. 

From that day on, I have despised snow.

This week, if a foot or so of snow falls, please look at the down side.

It is going to cost NYC a fortune in overtime to clear the streets.  Considering the budgetary catastrophe that COVID has brought the city, this is just pouring salt into that wound.

For hundreds of small (and large) developments, snow removal is almost always the single biggest expense they incur in a year.  I live in a group of 24 small townhomes.  Our homeowner's dues raise $43,200 a year. Clearing a foot of snow from our two parking lots and the sidewalks will cost about 20% of that total.  

For many people who still need to go to work in person, storms like this are a massive inconvenience as they disrupt public transportation and often make driving impossible.

So, when you sit here and cheer for more snow and you whine when the storm doesn't deliver a record amount, remember, there are a lot of us who a really hoping that the storm moves in a way that it becomes a rain event, or leaves just a few inches on the ground, easy to clear and move on.  

If you love giant snow storms that much, move to where they are common.  Move to upstate New York where the lake effect will make you happy all winter long. 

you know we can't actually change the weather right

watching people react to weenie model runs is like watching children shake their wrapped gifts on Christmas and excitedly trying to figure out what's inside

and then Christmas comes and the box is empty and you can drink their sorrows.  oh jeez mom 35F and cold rain again?

"New Jersey Monthly magazine ranked Secaucus as its 182nd best place to live in its 2010 rankings of the "Best Places To Live" in New Jersey, after ranking the borough 11th in its 2008 rankings.^["

^{what do you guys think happened in those two years}

^{why isn't the media talking about this}

roughly centered on Philadelphia, covers most of NJ except areas most north and northeast and most of E PA.  take care if you are traveling late tonight, freezing fog can create extremely dangerous conditions on roads and sidewalks.

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
353 PM EST Thu Dec 10 2020

DEZ001-NJZ007-009-010-012-013-015>022-027-PAZ060>062-070-071-
101>106-111000-
/O.NEW.KPHI.ZF.Y.0001.201211T0300Z-201211T1400Z/
New Castle-Warren-Hunterdon-Somerset-Middlesex-Western Monmouth-
Mercer-Salem-Gloucester-Camden-Northwestern Burlington-Ocean-
Cumberland-Atlantic-Southeastern Burlington-Berks-Lehigh-
Northampton-Delaware-Philadelphia-Western Chester-Eastern Chester-
Western Montgomery-Eastern Montgomery-Upper Bucks-Lower Bucks-
Including the cities of Wilmington, Washington, Flemington,
Somerville, New Brunswick, Freehold, Trenton, Pennsville,
Glassboro, Camden, Cherry Hill, Moorestown, Mount Holly, Jackson,
Millville, Hammonton, Wharton State Forest, Reading, Allentown,
Bethlehem, Easton, Media, Philadelphia, Honey Brook, Oxford,
West Chester, Kennett Square, Collegeville, Pottstown,
Norristown, Lansdale, Chalfont, Perkasie, Morrisville,
and Doylestown
353 PM EST Thu Dec 10 2020

...FREEZING FOG ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO
9 AM EST FRIDAY...

* WHAT...Visibility one quarter to one half mile in freezing fog
  and slippery roadways.

* WHERE...Portions of central, northern, northwest and southern
  New Jersey, east central and southeast Pennsylvania and
  northern Delaware.

* WHEN...From 10 PM this evening to 9 AM EST Friday.

* IMPACTS...Hazardous driving conditions due to low visibility and
  potential frost on bridges.

overperformer, i was expecting nuisance flakes and on/off precip.  it's been constant light snow for hours.

3 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

Makes sense though with so many choosing wisely to stay home this year 

as disastrous as this year has been there's been a bunch of random "winners."  christmas tree farms, sure why not.

to paraphrase an old forky post, you pretty much need a perfect synoptic setup just to get to below average anymore.

1 hour ago, Allsnow said:

Light snow for nyc Wednesday morning. 

i weenie'd your post, but only to be ironic 

11 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Remember the squall we had last year in mid December? That was crazy.

did we have another the year before, too.

both events were basically the hardest snows i ever saw in my life or at least the most violent.  visibility could be counted in single digit feet.  the irony was, because snow was coming, pretty much everyone in the office started getting in their cars to go home like 10 minutes before game time.  i failed to convince them that was a bad idea.

Just now, CIK62 said:

What's with the TORNADO WATCH from just south of NYC down through Delaware?

tornadoes may be afoot 

there is a warned storm in Delaware associated with the line that will be passing through

Winds are pretty quiet here in Piscataway, still very warm.  Are we in for Funderstorms with a cold front passage?

19 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

why do people come up with these crazy models?  Just spend the funds on one model to make it as good as possible.

i imagine (a.k.a. no clue what i'm talking about) that it's difficult or impossible for one all-encompassing model to be built due to constraints of money and computing power, and instead models are built with certain compromises, make certain assumptions, which may lead to specific biases.  and then meteorologists are tasked with using their expertise and experience to sort through all of the noise and determine what models are coming up with the best solutions that make the most sense.  in essence, the final model is the forecaster, taking an ensemble and reducing it to a forecast.

or not, idk.

mid 70s for most of the area tomorrow, accumulation should be limited to the north and west.

this weather is (no accounting for personal tastes) perfect.  perfect.  it felt wonderful to be outside today, and basically that's what we have to look forward to until Wednesday.

and honestly, we basically need a warm winter this year with coronavirus afoot and rapidly getting out of control.  the restaurants and bars need the outdoor dining opportunities, outdoor recreation and exercise is safest, and viruses tend to survive better in colder and drier environments.  i wouldn't mind punting on winter this year.

if my calculations are correct it will not snow the next 5 years, which is almost 10 years.  it could be *counts on fingers* 2045 before it snows again

will you guys just let the winter play out a bit sheesh, it's November 3rd.

1 minute ago, cptcatz said:

Well Euro has this getting to 933 mb in ten days from now in the middle of the Caribbean, so maybe what we're seeing tonight wont be the peak of Eta... (cue weenie likes)

well we're going to have to see what emerges if/when it gets back over water.  it's not a huge storm and its core is going to be dragging its nuts over some pretty mountainous areas in Honduras for a good chunk of time.

38 minutes ago, Moderately Unstable said:

Will-Rutgers 925mb/140kt

OH BABY

9 minutes ago, Moderately Unstable said:

Place yer bets folks! Come one come all, try your luck! Guess the pressure and winds! Only 5 cents! 

925/160 mph

wow.  what're the odds the season's last storm is its most powerful?

unless, of course, the atmosphere intends to keep spawning storms through late fall...

just chatting here.  usually with a big warm front pulling away and the resultant ET strengthening we are treated to strong dry cold winds.  but right now it's so still that it's not cold at all.  i usually hate the day-after of a big storm with clear skies and screaming cold dry winds but here in Piscataway it's still, sorta humid, nice and comfy to be outside.

storm seems to have performed more or less as advertised, hours and hours of rain mostly moderate in intensity and sometimes heavy.  i think it's moved a little slower than i expected.

haven't seen much sun lately, socked in with clouds yet again as i leave work.

snow or no snow, we finally have something to track, and we could really use precipitation in whatever form it decides to take.

i have a weather observation

i observe this weather is boring

it's so boring that if Metfan said "i think it's going to rain a quarter inch tomorrow" i'd give his post a weenie reaction

This weather pattern is very very Low Energy!  SAD!