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10 hours ago, Jebman said:

13 degrees now and pretty heavy snow. I went out there and just breathed in a deep deep breath of 14-degree snow filled air! Wow all the myriads of flakes in the outside lights! I think we just might be getting 2 inch per hour rates. At least 2 inches out there right now and really coming down, just blowing and blowing past the big light out in the field!

That's awesome. I can't remember the last time I experienced thundersnow. Might have been the Feb 1983 "megapolitan" storm when I was at Rutgers.

3 hours ago, Jebman said:

Try the Outer Banks of North Carolina. I LOVED visiting that place so much, long happy beach jebwalks there.......

Love the outer banks. I think I mentioned in another post that we used to vacation in Buxton/Cape Hatteras most summers when we lived in Virginia. I'm not sure I'd ever want to actually purchase property there since it is so susceptible to hurricanes. But would definitely like to spend more time there.

46 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

That's great. As much as I like the east, there is nothing like being out west. It's just gorgeous out there. Utah, Montana, Colorado, and Wyoming. My goodness. 

Agreed. In grad school a group of us drove out to Seattle to spend a couple of months at U of Washington. Utah was stunning. We didn't even have time to stop at any of the parks,  but the views from the highway were gorgeous. On the way back went through Montana and hit Yellowstone. Have to get out there again. Have also spent quite a bit of time in the Boulder area, but that was 30 years ago. Beautiful country but I hear the front range has become quite over-populated now, housing costs skyrocketing, traffic.

20 minutes ago, vastateofmind said:

Sounds like you live in a beautiful spot. I still enjoy the big snows (at this point, any snow) on the rare occasion it appears in southern FfxCo...just hate cleaning it up now. We're probably heading for one of the Carolinas or Florida in a couple years for a pre-retirement move. The beach will eventually win out.

We'd love to move to a warm beach area at some point. Used to vacation on Cape Hatteras when we were living down your way. Lake Ontario beaches just ain't the same! I know people living around Charleston SC and also Tybee Island GA and they love it down there. We'll see. Snow removal is definitely wearing on me, especially clearing the roof which is prone to serious ice dams when conditions are right. Old house, poorly insulated attic and lots of snow is not a great combination for an aging body!

1 hour ago, jayyy said:

My freshman year of college was spent in Oswego before transferring to the University at Buffalo. The year I was up there was the “10 feet in 8 days” year in February 2007 (winter 06-07) We got over 240” that season. The snowiest parts of the tughill surpassed 300. It was an insane 90 days of weather. Buffalo was also quite snowy, but more cold than anything else. The city of Buffalo itself isn’t in the best location for persistent lake snow being on the NE tip of Erie, but when the fetch and steering winds align SW over Erie.... look out. The “October storm” was quite memorable. Nearly 2 feet in mere hours with thundersnow. I’m not sure I’ll ever get the opportunity to live in such a snowy place again. Apple isn’t based in any super snowy cities or areas

Western NY ain't a bad place to be if you can find a decent job (or if you're retired). My wife and I have been up here since 2003. We live in western Monroe county (near Brockport). Pretty nice, still lots of farmland and open space. We average about 100" of snow but are not in one of the prime lake effect belts where bands set up and dump 60" in a day. It comes in frequent smaller amounts, lots of days with 1-3". An occasional synoptic storm as well, I'd say most winters there is one big event in the 12-24" range. This year we're well below average but still have had nearly 50" with a solid 8" or so on the ground right now.

We lived in Maryland and Virginia for 10 years and I actually preferred the climate down there. I'm more of a summer person and frankly am getting tired of the long, dark, cold winters. The biggest problems are the lack of sun from November - March, sometimes you can go weeks without any sun. And the springs often tend to be delayed, cold, wet. That's partly due to the cold lakes being nearby. On the other hand, summer and fall are glorious.

We'll probably retire in Virginia or NC though we're also toying with the idea of shaking things up and spending some time out west. Time will tell...

1 hour ago, DDweatherman said:

I’ll make a PSA since there are some that root for icing events. Check out video footage of Texas, and tell me you are rooting for ice.

Just probably lost a dozen lives and dozens more seriously injured. This is a weather forum, but it’s just food for thought. And they didn’t even really get much accretion. 

Yeah, I have very mixed feelings about ice storms. They can be stunningly beautiful but also incredibly destructive. Experienced a big one on Long Island in 1978 or 1979, it completely destroyed the power grid and we had no power for a week. No wood stove, no backup generator, no fun! But it was spectacularly beautiful. People up here (Rochester area) STILL talk about the big one that hit in 1991. Wasn't living here then, and we moved up here just after the latest destructive one in 2003. That one was nowhere near as bad and we are now past due.

If you can thread the needle and get enough ice to coat all the trees but not enough to bring them all down, that's ideal. 1.5" of ice is too much and I hope you all don't get hit with that.  The set up does look concerning but plenty of time for things to sort out.

Just wanted to pop in as a former mid-Atlantic person (PG county MD and Powhatan VA for a total of 10 years) and say I'm pulling for one of these to be a big hitter for you guys. So many chances, I feel like one of them is going to break your way.

This is still the sub-forum I come to for long range discussions - best info on all the boards right here IMO.

Good luck!

7 minutes ago, osfan24 said:

I'd love to get into the weather field. Seems like I missed my calling as well, but calc, physics and chemistry were a real struggle for me. I was much more a history/English guy.

Hey, hope you folks don't mind a visit from an out-of-region poster (currently living near Rochester NY but did spend most of the 1990s in MD/VA) and this is probably more of a banter post, but the talk about math and meteorology caught my eye. I was fascinated by weather growing up and read every book I could find in the library. So I went ahead and studied meteorology eventually getting a PhD and working in applied research. Anyway, my recollection...and things may have changed since I got my BS in 1984...the math required for a BS wasn't all that bad. Yes, you need to be able to handle basic calculus  but I don't remember anyone flunking out or having to change their major because of the math requirements. Some had more trouble than others, of course, but even if you struggled with the math classes you might be able to get through a met program.

Now, at the MS/PHD level things are different! First semester of grad school we all had to take "Intro to Geophysical Fluid Dynamics" taught by a theoretical guy. All the derivations were in tensor notation which many of us had never seen before. I believe a couple did drop out but most were able to get through even that. Lots of nonlinear equations, solving for eigenvectors...I was able to do it at the time but really have not used that stuff since.

Anyway, sorry for the off topic. I come to this forum regularly to read the discussions about long range patterns, which I think are the best on the entire forum.

10" average depth as of 10 am this morning. Surprising amount of drifting considering how heavy this stuff is. Not much stuck on the trees, though.

Went from no snow to fairly heavy snow in the past half hour, accumulating on the grass and roads. Winds howling.

Encouraged by the convection around Buffalo. Haven't experienced thundersnow since...1983 maybe? Bring it on!