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I really like this thread. Good work everyone.

wow...master of disaster is right for a change

So you are basing your opinion that he was wrong on something he didnt say? That makes zero sense.

indeed

That makes it Missouri's 2nd ever F/EF5

yeah.. im sure most people would have a few things to do before coming back to amwx after something like this.

not me. i'm here constantly.

Didn't the Hacklesburg/Phil Campbell storm also go from nothing to violent in a super short period as well?

all those storms are forming a nice squall line now over N AR/ S MO

engineers trade their humanity for money...they are consistently the douchiest people i interact with

bangladesh

Heres my best shot at running some stats off the NCDC stats page. Any of you guys that are better with statistics than I am please feel free to correct me if I have made an error somewhere

ok here are the numbers using the NCDC storm event pages stats. I used Jan 1st to June 30th as my sample dates.

Of the years we have seen landfalling tropical storms and hurricanes in NC we saw 8 years since 1984. Those years are

1984- Diana

1996- Bertha/Fran

1998-Bonnie

1999- Dennis/Floyd

2003-Isabel

2004-Charley

2006-Ernesto

2008-Hanna

In those 8 years we had a total of 232 tornadoes with an avg of 29 a year.

In the other 18 years of no tropical landfalls we have a total of 174 tornadoes and an avg of only 9.6 a year. This number is thrown off by 2 of those years that saw high tornado counts in 1989 with 24 and 2009 with 31. So those 2 years account for 55 out of the 174 total. 2009 only had 8 named tropical systems all year as well.

4 out of the 8 years with tropical landfalls had years with 30+ plus tornadoes.

IMO there seems to be a pattern of more tropical activity in general for NC when we have an active spring with lots of tornadoes.

That's not the greatest sample size but some interesting statistics nonetheless. Seems like the similar patterns (incoming troughs) produce tornadoes and NC landfalls. Years with big ridging likewise would not be great for tornado outbreaks and would suppress TC tracks to the south and into FL/GOM.

go **** yourself loser

it 's my house... not yours it has no affect on you what so ever....if the founding fathers were forced by people like you to build a freaking safe shelter in their own house becuase of some freak tornado you would be laughed at and better yet shot.

again **** you,,i;m out of here

chillax jj...you're way more level headed than this

smh...this safety discussion should have been spun off long ago...can't believe this took over the thread and we had to move discussion of the actual tornadoes to a new one

update

Per twitter, 35 have been found dead in the Rosedale housing project, so far. These ARE NOT included in the Official numbers yet.

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whose twitter?

Chad Meyers was completely hideous

he's always hideous

138 preliminary tornado reports for today.

...and that doesn't even include many of the GA twisters

not good...180kt delta v with a velocity hole...looks like the tornado will go between all 3 towns.

there was a large industrial park right under that debris ball

Probably almost impossible for a passenger to know whether or not they are over a tornado while flying commercially (I assume planes can fly over these storms without turbulence as long as they stay at maximum altitude)but I wonder what it looks like above these storms and if pilots have the technology available to know whether or not they are flying over a tornado. Just a different aspect.

Airplanes steer around severe storms. Some today had 55k tops...way higher than commercial airliners fly.

David Deal, WIAT meteorologist, is on TWC and talking about pavement torn up and grass pulled from the ground in the tornado damage he surveyed.

Crazy...

wow....that was a feisty twister

I typically cringe at those guessing these things prematurely, but I would be very surprised if it's not rated as EF5 based on all available information.

we haven't seen a clean slab yet....but there's got to be a bunch in there somewhere

Unbelievable monster

another crazy video...tornado of the decade

i just realized the second video came from just off the mcfarland exit...so these guys caught the tornado doing that incredible damage documented in the earlier video at 15th and mcfarland

I could watch that second video all day...so many crazy appendages!

I'm amazed by the sheer complexity of the vortices in these videos...horizontal shooters, multiple satellites, giant parent mesos, etc

Holy moly! Wow.

I don;'t know whether those winds were inflow or RFD, but the 5 min mark is intense for being outside of the vortex